Chit Chat: Iron Man 3

Chit chat is a dialogue between two or more of our contributors. It’s done online 99% of the time but you can imagine us discussing it over coffee. Or vodka, depending on the subject material.

Anika: Today we’re talking Iron Man 3. This conversation contains MANY SPOILERS for the film and franchise.

J.A.R.V.I.S.

First, did you like it? How much? What grade might you give it?

Ali: I hate the grading system because… I just do. I always make up arbitraty numbers or letters. Like, I give Iron Man 3 a banana because it’s really good but it’s not my most favorite fruit.

Sara: I really, really enjoyed this movie. It exceeded my expectations and I spent such a long time after the movie ended remembering parts that made me happy or gasp out loud or really appreciate the genre that this movie is a part of. Iron Man was the first to kick off the Marvel Cinematic Universe and RDJ has shouldered a lot of weight since the beginning. He’s risen to the occasion and with Iron Man 3, he gave more depth to a Tony we all know well from the comics. I guess I give it an A- because I loved it, but there were weaknesses. And I am totally not as clever as Ali, forever sad about it.

Ali: Bananas aside, I agree with Sara. This installment gave Tony a LOT of depth. And I liked it for that.

Tony has a special room to display his issues.

Tony has a special room to display his issues.

Anika: I have to agree, this Tony Stark was my favourite Tony Stark other than the one that exists in my head … because he basically is the one that exists in my head. In every previous encounter, including Avengers, Pepper has been my favourite but in this one it was Tony. And it has a lot, if not everything, to do with his anxiety (you are not surprised) — what did you think of that arc?

Ali: I LOVED the panic attacks.

Sara: Tony was on top of the world at the beginning of the Avengers. He had the girl, the renewable energy source, the Iron Man suit, and a arc reactor that wasn’t turning his insides into sludge. He had nowhere to go but down. I really enjoyed his interactions with reality via the panic attacks.

Anika: Do you think that plotline reached a satisfactory conclusion?

Sara: Um, no. But I don’t think it was supposed to. I think that is best left up to Avengers 2, where Tony is going to have to make the concious decision to join up with the people that put him in the position of being lost in space. (I know nothing for sure, this is my guesstimation about what will happen in that movie)

Ali: I mean, it’s a bit tidy at the end because it’s a movie and it has to be. But I like that he’s having a panic attack on his way to fighting the bad guys. And I like that they show him learning to pull himself out of it.

Anika: I agree with both these points. (1) It has to be tied up for the movie but (2) the MCU is an ongoing drama . . . Just like the comic books it’s based on! Imagine that!

Sara: Word.

Ali: I like that while he’s having he first attack, he refuses to believe that’s what’s happening to him. I love Tony for his confidence and his brashness–he permantently has that youthful “I’m invincibleness”. And in this movie, he’s learning that that’s SO not the case anymore. It’s a very basic and very real lesson of growing up. And that’s really what Tony starts to do in this movie.

Anika: Which is interesting because it’s what he thought he was doing in the first movie but “coming of age” is a long journey.

Ali: It’s like Iron Man is “look at me being responsible and shit! I AM AN ADULT”, Iron Man 2 is “I AM AN ADULT YOU GUYS! I DRINK AND BLOW THINGS UP” and Avengers is “fine, I will work with you because I AM A GROWN UP NOW.” and then Iron Man 3 is “holy shit I’m an adult… this sucks.”

Sara: Yes. This movie was Tony in his late twenties.

Ali: Which I love because he should be well beyond that at this point!

Sara: I feel like Tony was in his “college years” for most of his life.

Anika: That’s what happens when you live without boundaries. Which is a great segue into Tony’s boundaries: Pepper and Rhodey. I want to start with Rhodey because I cannot say enough great things about him.

James Rhodes

Ali: I love Rhodey. And I love Don Cheadle. But it’s like when Jim Henson passed away and the Muppets all sounded wrong.

Anika: I sort of felt that way in 2, but not here. Here he owned it.

Sara: What? Why?! I vastly prefer Don Cheadle to Terrence Howard!

Ali: I keep expecting Terrance Howard and Don Cheadle seems to be doig a psuedo impersonation of Howard and it’s weird to me.

Sara: I think Don Cheadle really pulled off the wry and dry comedy that is needed for the role of Rhodey. And the scene with Rhodey and Tony in the resteraunt was everything I ever wanted for a post-Avengers Tony.

Ali: That restuarant scene was perfect.

Anika: I don’t have a preference for Howard or Cheadle — I wasn’t really invested in the character in the first two films. Only in his relationship to Tony. But in this film, well, Rhodey Rox!

Sara: I love how, like Cap, his patriotism and some what old school brand of heroism comes off as sincere and admirable, rather than douchey and two dimensional.

Ali: Yes!

Sara: He’s a perfect foil for the flashy and grandstanding rebel that is Tony and it’s why he works so well in this movie. This narrative was about Tony falling to pieces and needing something to hold onto. Rhodey (and Pepper) is that stability. He is steadfast and true and so very necessary to Tony’s development.

Pepper Potts

Anika: Now Pepper.

Ali: PEPPER FREAKING POTTS

Sara: Bless GP, that woman is flaw-free.

Ali: At the end? With the fire ninja stuff? She’s just the best ever.

Sara: My precious, kickass Pepperpot.

Anika: Y’all know I love Pepper. Pepper has been my girl since the first movie. But…

Ali: I love how at the start of the movie Tony’s all “I have to protect you because I can’t lose you.” And Pepper’s freaking Pepper. She’s capable and can take care of herself AND Tony. And I love, love, LOVE that they let her save him, in a very physical way, not once but TWICE.

Sara: “Got you.” I think that broke me so many times.

Ali: She is the very opposite of a damsel in distress.

Anika: But but but…. she was already. She was that in the first movie. In both the first and second films she literally runs INTO distress to save the day. Everybody loves kickass fire ninja hardcore Pepper and I’m over here all SHE WAS ALREADY PERFECT.

Sara: That’s the thing. Whether she’s in 4 inch Louboutins or overheating in spandex and sports bras, Pepper has always been HBIC. Because, so unlike Tony, she knows that her emotions (her worries, her grasp of reality) are not something to be avoided or buried. They are there to make you strong and that’s why she’s always been a HBIC and she’s always been Tony’s rock, even while she is tearing up or teetoring over the edge of some building. Pepper Potts is a woman that won’t let anything stop her from doing what needs to be done.

Anika's favourite quote.

Ali: She was and she did. But I think with the other movies, it’s not as apparent to Tony.

Anika: I disagree, in the first she’s the one he counts on and in the second he gives her his company.

Ali: Like she’s saving the day and putting herself in danger, but she’s helping Tony. In this movie, she’s saving Tony.

Sara: Physically, maybe. But I think Pepper is a huge reason why Tony hasn’t expired in a pool of his own vomit. Or why he got up in the morning and did real people things. Pepper has been saving Tony ever since he met her.

Anika: I do love the ‘Got you’ scene but I didn’t love the end as much. “That was really violent” was maybe my favourite line reading in the whole movie but it WAS really violent which felt kinda off.

Sara: It was terrifying.

Anika: Though it may be all tied up in my general dislike of Killian as a villain. For me, the scene plays better in the rewrite in my head…

Ali: Did anyone notice his dragon tattoos? I was totally distracted by them.

Anika: Yeah, they popped out at the end there. I guess because he’s the real Mandarin??

Sara: Ooooooh, I didn’t get that from before.

This is the best image of the tattoos I could find. To make up for it Caroline sent me Guy Pearce with chest hair and tiger cubs.

This is the best image of the tattoos I could find. To make up for it Caroline sent me Guy Pearce unbuttoned with tiger cubs.

Ali: Like, were they there the whole time? Why don’t they blend in with the general fireness of his skin? Do you think he got them when he was still all pimply? Or did he get them because he got all bad ass?

Sara: I’d guess the latter.

Ali: I think he got them right after the roof-top incident. “I’ll show you Tony Stark! Look at my bad-ass dragons!”

Anika: Ahahaha, that is my headcanon now.

Sara: Same.

Anika: So, how strong did you find the villains? Killian, Maya, “Mandarin”?

Mandarin?

Ali: I loved the twist with the Mandarin. I thought it was brilliant. Well, I thought Ben Kingsley as Trevor was brilliant.

Anika: I started to suspect something when they were discussing “the Master” but I really enjoyed that, yes.

Sara: This is just the most brillant of analyses and everyone needs to read this at some point. It says anything I want to say about it.

Ali: I was kinda bummed Maya ended up being Team Bad Guy.

Anika: That’s in my rewrite-the-ending too! There is no reason for her to be dead. And she cared about Tony AND Pepper. I wanted and expected her to come back for the final battle.

Ali: I mean, she wasn’t a bad guy-bad guy. And I can see how she ended up there. But still. I had a sad. I think her getting killed goes back to the “really violent” thing. Killian is REALLY violent. Just insanely so. So I guess that went into establishing that?

Anika: I didn’t get Killian. Or I wanted him to be better I guess. I think the drama was that even Killian 2.0 was not a good enough foil for Tony Stark… But I wish that was more explicit or they played with it more or Tony realized it?

Sara: Charisma is a poor substitute for genius and that is what Killian tried to pull over on everyone.

Ali: I’m kind of glad he wasn’t that great a foil. Because I think we got to see and appreciate more of Tony’s struggle with Tony. I think if they developed Killian and Mandarin more it would have competed too much.

Anika: I don’t think I want more development, I just thought the themes that I was drawn to were too vague? So I don’t know if they were intentional? Which usually doesn’t bother me, but it does here.

Sara: I agree. I kept waiting for a bigger plot or bigger bad, I guess. As it was, I never understood what Killian was getting at.

Anika: Yeah, what was he even trying to do?

Ali: He was evil and trying to take over the world, duh.

No one can grasp my evil plan.

No one can grasp my evil plan.

Anika: I must assume the VP plot is on the cutting room floor somewhere because it was super random. Also, unrelated, why did this movie come out in May and not for Christmas?

Sara: To sell the DVD for Christmas?

Ali: Ha! I was thinking the same thing – with all the holiday stuff.

Sara: Yeah, Aldrich even kind of rhymes with the Grinch. If I were more clever, I would rewrite the song with appropriate and funny lyrics. But, alas.

Ali: Look, every bad guy can’t be Loki.

Anika: Hey, I’d settle for Justin Hammer.

Sara: Marvel villians aren’t good enough for me.

Anika: There are two more supporting characters to discuss, Happy and Harley. Aside: Everyone in this movie has a crazy name.

From the junior novelization.

From the junior novelization.

Sara: It’s hilarious to me that with Jon Favereau’s demotion from director also had Happy demoted to even less screentime.

Anika: He had more to do though.

Ali: I was gonna say, Happy actually did stuff in this one!

Anika: He was pretty lovable.

Sara: Happy is always lovable and Tony described him as his best friend. Adorbs and totally insulting to Rhodey. Just what Tony strives in life to do.

Anika: And I liked the kid. I liked that Tony basically treated him like one of his robots, which really is more affection than he affords the average person.

Ali: Ha! He did! The kid took the place of the robot!

a screencap of Harley and Tony

Harley is the Tin Dog.

Sara: I loved that comic relief. So needed!

Ali: I love how genius that kid was.

Anika: I liked how normal the town was, too. Like it wasn’t dumbed down or full of freaks just because it was small town Tennessee instead of New York or Malibu. I think the crux of it is I really loved all the details in this movie, but the big picture not as much.

How about we wrap up with favourite moments?

Ali: Pepper and Maya being all serious talking about life and real stuff. I saw it and I was like OMG BECHDEL TEST!

Anika: Passed!

Sara: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Ali: HURRAH!

Ali: I was so excited!

Sara: It’s sad how excited we get because it almost never happens.

Ali: I think that’s why I was so upset she ended up being a villain because she had this really great moment with Pepper.

Anika: I am convinced she had a change of heart because of Pepper.

Sara: Her death was just so stupid.

Ali: Joss Whedon TOTES would have killed her.

Sara: Yeah, but in a better way!

Ali: I think Maya was totally honest and real in that conversation. She wasn’t just trying to manipulate Pepper.

Anika: Right! And Pepper surprised her by understanding. And then she sees Killian hurting Pepper and using her… it’s not faith in Tony that changes her mind, it’s Pepper.

Near death experiences change a person.

Near death experiences change a person.

Anika: Also, I ship it.

Sara: Lol, of course.

Anika: I think the rest of her story was cut too. But she can come back. I will start a petition to put her in an Avengers film.

Sara: Where do I sign?

Anika: Other favourite moments:

Ali: Ummmmmmm……giant bunny?

Sara: Barrel of Monkeys.

Ali: Good one! Puppy dog eyes not working?

Anika: When Tony had empty armor walking around and Pepper did not bat one eyelash. She didn’t even look at it.

Ali: Ooh! Ohh! Trevor and the stinky bathroom!

Sara: I was so distracted by Pepper’s abs and Rhodey’s arms for the entirety of that last scene.

Anika: Tony going back for DUM-E. I could cry.

Ali: SCIENCE BROS and the after-credit scene!!!!

Marks


Anika’s Rewrite:

Pepper whacks Killian with the pipe.
Tony: I got nothing.
Pepper engages Killian in a debate… “Why are you DOING this? This isn’t YOU?”
Killian: Exactly!
He starts to monologue about his cray idea that anonymity is power and he can be anything and anyone even Tony Stark!
Pepper: You’re nothing like Tony Stark. You chose to be nothing.
Killian: *rage*
Tony: Come on, Pep, he’s not worth our time.
Killian: *RAGE*
Killian goes in for the kill on retreating Tony and Pepper.
Maya appears and blasts him out of the sky.
Pepper: That was really –
Tony: Hot, yes.

Maya Hansen for Avengers 2!

Maya Hansen for Avengers 2!

Q&A # 201: Flashback: What comic book characters should go on a road trip together?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Flashback: What comic book characters should go on a road trip together?


ALI

First off: let me just say that I have wanted to answer this question since it was first asked back in Q&A #74. It’s the initial reason I kept coming back to this site and part of why I was so excited to be part of Team Fantastic Fangirls. I love this question so, so, so much.

And now I have to answer it. *gulp*

Right now, my gut-reaction answer is Kid Loki and Miss America Chavez.

I love the dynamic the two of them have: you’ve got the no-nonsense, direct straight-man and the all-nonsense trickster. They’d have this whole Brienne and Jamie thing going. It’d be fantastic! That said, I think the actual travel in this road trip would be from America punching Loki across state lines, as opposed, you know, actual driving.

So. My final answer.

Stephanie Brown and Hope Summers

I very nearly went with Steph and Kara here, because the Batgirl-Supergirl team-up to fight movie Dracula issue is probably my most favorite comic in the history of ever. But I think part of the fun here is to mix and match characters across universes.

Hope Summers has spent the majority of her life traveling across time and space. You’re probably thinking she doesn’t need a road trip. I respectfully and heartily disagree. Hope needs to know what it’s like to travel without being chased by a mutant from an alternative future that’s trying to kill her. She needs, more than anyone I think, to be shown what it’s like to have fun.


SAM

My default answer to any sort of wacky-hijinks-team-up is usually Clint and pre-reboot Ollie. The shenanigans. Oh, the shenanigans.

But in the spirit of creativity – or at least non-repetitiveness – I’m choosing some new people! Feel free to imagine the hilarity of Clint and Ollie driving through the countryside in some flash convertible.

I’d like a Volkswagen Bus full of Asgardians to head out from Asgard-on-Earth and travel around, getting to know Midgard via all the wacky Americana there is to experience, like the world’s biggest ball of rubber bands, or something.

Thor, the Warriors Three, Sif, and, because I’m currently in love with Fearless Defenders, Valkyrie, can all squeeze in. For even more comedic gold, throw in Kid Loki. And for the fish out of water who’s the readers’ connection to the heroes… Annabelle Riggs (did I mention I’m currently in love with Fearless Defenders?). Preferably with her helmet.


SARA

I think the better question for me to answer is which comic book characters shouldn’t go on a roadtrip together and the answer of course is no one because, oh my God, the hilarity of any heros going on a trip together is too priceless to ignore.

Fine, fine, I’ll give a real answer.

While I would truly enjoy any team-up ever on this endeavor, at the moment, my most desired roadtrip would be between the Avengers from MCU. There, I said it. Welcome to my life.

I am apparently not the only one, as this amazing artist graced us with their work last summer and you can find it at their tumblr, ICannotBelieve.

After seeing the Avengers movie last year, the one thing I could not wait for was team storylines. Not fighting for good and justice, but rather coming together to be the amazing personalities that they are under one roof.

So what if it was a car roof?

Like, did we all see the same ending to the movie? I think we did.

And, thank Jeebus for fanfiction, because it gave me what I needed at the moment. Jibralis wrote an amazing, heartwrenching fic called The sky and everything beneath it and you should all read it here and leave kudos and tell me what you think about it!


So what about you? What comic book characters should go on a road trip together?

Q&A # 200: What do you remember about the first comics you read?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Happy Birthday, Q&A!! What do you remember about the first comics you read?


ALI

Comic books were not something that were ever really in our house growing up, and not something I sought after when I could just watch Super Friends on TV instead. I mean, I’ve always loved superheroes and adventure stories. He-Man, She-Ra, Danger Mouse, and ThunderCats pretty much consumed my childhood. But never comics.

When I was 11 or 12, my dad came home one night with polybagged copies of Death of Superman for me and my brother. Convinced they would be very valuable someday, he told us under no circumstances should we take the comic book out of its shiney bag. We were to save it until we were adults, when it would be worth lots and lots of money.

Breaking the rules was never something that came easily to me. But I HAD to know what happened. I mean, how could Superman just DIE? He was the strongest guy in the universe! He could fly so fast that he made the world go backwards. I knew ’cause I saw him do it on the WPIX Sunday Afternoon Movie like five times. Guys like that don’t just get beaten by bad guys. And they certainly don’t die.

So one busy Saturday afternoon, when my parents were off doing house and yard work, I crept downstairs and got the good scissors out of the junk drawer. I went back into my bedroom and locked the door. Ever so carefully, I cut the top of the polybag off. I can still remember the crinkle of the mylar and the smell of the glossy paper. I remember the weight of the comic being heavier than I thought it would be. Convinced what I was doing something was very wrong, I hide behind my bed and, knees to my chin, gripping the book with both hands, and read my very first comic book.


SAM

I remember wondering why Betty and Veronica bothered fighting over Archie when they were clearly meant for each other.

I actually distinctly remember this panel. For the urk.

No, but seriously. My first comics were Archie comics, the kind you could buy in the supermarket checkout lane. I had stacks of Archie, Betty & Veronica, and Jughead double digests hanging around my dad’s house. I was just a kid, so I was more concerned with Jughead’s awesome pranks than the relationships of the characters, but I definitely had my favorite. Oddly, none of them were Archie.

My favorite Double Digest was a summer special, that involved a lot of beach-related stories, like the one with the scene from above. I still don’t know what drew me to those books, but I devoured them like nobody’s business.

Even twenty years later, I remember a lot of the little shorts from the various books. I wish I’d held onto at least some of the stacks of comics, because I’d love to reread them and relive the stories. And as a modern, adult comic fan, I feel oddly proud that Archie Comics is often at the forefront of the industry when it comes to diversity and social issues. Now if Betty and Veronica could just figure themselves out, drop that Archie jerk, and admit their love for each other… everything would be perfect.


SARA

It is so ridiculously appropriate that I am answering this question because, at this very moment, I am re-reading the first comics I ever read!

Batgirl, featuring Cassandra Cain as Batgirl, is the best introduction a 12-year-old gril could possibly have to the comic book world. Yes, I am biased. No, I don’t care. Cassie Cain is awesome.

I learned about the Batfamily through shows like Batman The Animated Series and Batman Beyond, but Silent Running was the first ever comic book I could remember picking up and devouring. For those of you that never read the book, it was basically Cassie’s origin story and backstory rolled into one. Cassie was mute, having not been exposed to spoken language by her mob boss father, who deliberately did so to train his daughter to be the ultimate weapon. A killing machine that didn’t slow herself down by translating human movement into language in her head? And the Father of the Year Award goes to…

But why is Silent Running still such a pinnacle book for me? Probably because Cassie exhibited true heroism and bravery and it made me really excited for her character. After Cassie’s illiterate/mute status was explained, she comes across a telepath who scrambles her body-language reading brain into one that understands and communicates in spoken words. This rewiring leads Cassie to slow down in combat against four gunmen. Does that stop her?

Nope. Did the shots hurt?

Probably.


So what about you? What do you remember about the first comics you read?

Q&A # 199: What are your media consumption habits? Netflix? Hardcover books? Digital comics? Tell us how you access the stories we all love.

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What are your media consumption habits? Netflix? Hardcover books? Digital comics? Tell us how you access the stories we all love.


GABBY

If trade paperbacks were the only type of books one could buy, that would make me the happiest girl in the world. I love TPBs; how the art on the covers is usually prettier, how it folds every which way, how they fit on a shelf.

You can’t tell me that’s not pretty.

I limit the comics I purchase to the Whedonverse, and the other shows that I wish to follow in comic book format. The Silver Snail(https://www.facebook.com/SilverSnailComicsOttawa) in Ottawa is my preferred location for all things comics; they are quite friendly and there are many female employees that are super welcoming.

Recently, I bought a Nexus 7. I’ve been cutting back on paper-book purchases, and my student-on-a-budget wallet thanks me for it. It’s a great tablet; I mostly use the Kobo app to read e-books, and I love getting the achievements! They’re like virtual stickers and you can collect them depending on how many pages or what kinds of books you read. It really appeals to the overachiever in me.


JESSICA

My favorite way to consume media has always been (and will forever be) through reading – hardcovers and paperbacks, fantasy epics and cheesy time-travel historical romances, I love it all. Most of the fandoms I’m really passionate about originated with books (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Ender’s Game), and reading traditional books satisfies my craving for narrative in a way that no other media outlet does. I love the way that when you are reading a book, especially one that may not be commercially popular, the world inside becomes your own. You are granted a privileged access into the hearts and minds of the characters, and it’s yours to take advantage of whenever you have the time to delve into its pages. Books have the power to suck me into them emotionally. I’ve noticed that if terrible things are happening to the main character in a book I’m really invested in, I will be seriously depressed and sad. Sometimes I don’t even realize why until I notice that there is nothing terrible happening in my life–it’s all in the book! As much as I love television, movies, and comics, none of them have the power to stick with me in the way that books do. I rarely buy them new, although I do make exceptions for special occasions, like a new release by a favorite author. Just let me loose in a used bookstore (my favorite is McKay’s, back home in Knoxville) with $10 and I’ll be happy for at least a week.


SAM

Well, I play video games mostly on my XBox, with a few exceptions (Journey, the Uncharted series, and some older games I play on my PC, mobile gaming on my iPhone), which has also become something of a media center for me. I watch most of my TV via either Hulu or Netflix, and occasionally will watch stuff on the web if they don’t offer it anywhere else and I don’t want to wait for Netflix, like Pretty Little Liars, Lost Girl, and Elementary. I watch most movies via Netflix, unless I’m so excited for something that I absolutely have to see it in the theater. For newer releases, if I happened to miss it in the theater but really want to see it, I’ll probably rent it via Amazon Instant or Zune or something.

As far as reading goes, I read books mostly on my Kindle these days. I’m in love with my Kindle. I read so much more now that I have it. I used to be a huge reader; I’d read a book a week from age 10 through law school, but I haven’t read so much in recent years. Now I read all the time. I’ll read the occasional paper book, usually if someone’s lent it to me, but I’d much rather carry my Kindle around with me than a book. Comics I read almost exclusively on my phone. I love the guided view of Comixology, and actually think it adds a lot to the reading experience on some titles, like Hawkeye. I’m glad I went totally digital, because I’ve still got about ten boxes of comics from five or six years ago that I have no idea what to do with. I aspire to one day have an iPad or Kindle Fire, but I’m pretty happy with the tech I have right now.


SARA

So, what I really want someone to do for their college thesis one year (hopefully soon) is to look at the attention span / GPA changes of college students pre and post the invention of Netflix. Because hotdamn. If there was one thing (besides Glee) that tanked my GPA in college, it was Netflix.

What a wondrous thing. High quality, quick streaming, and thousands upon thousands of movies and TV shows ranging from Oscar Nominated Classics of the 1950s to C-grade Zombie Movies that You Have to be Drunk And Or High to Enjoy.

You can imagine why college might be the best place for Netflix subcription drones to set up shop.

Netflix is awesome. Netflix is the best. Netflix now has all of Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Batman Beyond on its Instant Streaming. Oh my God, am I glad that I no longer have a GPA to tank.


So what about you? What are your media consumption habits? NetFlix? Hardcover books? Digital comics? Tell us how you access the stories we all love.

Fantastic Fangirls Podcast 2.6: Summer Movie Preview

On our newest podcast, Sam, Sara and Gabby make Much Ado about a lot of movies that have them Catching Fire and turning Upside Down with excitement as. . .

Okay, I can’t keep this up. Have a picture of the new Superman and Lois Lane:

. . .and enjoy the podcast!

Then come to the comments and tell us what movies you’re most excited to see.

(PS, they’re not all coming out in the summer but I’d already named the file before I realized that.)

Q&A # 196: Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.


ANIKA

I want to read the Unauthorized Biography of every superhero I care about and even Hawkeye. Actually, maybe Hawkeye the MOST. It involves the circus.

This is Clint Barton performing in the circus.

And at least one illegitimate child, right?

This is Trowa Barton performing in the circus. His parents are unknown but he is a spy who grew up in a circus. Just saying.


SARA

My answer to this question is completely inspired by a story I am editing for my friend, Mikayla. Thank you Mikayla!

(Also, disclaimer: I read this week’s Q&A as a question posing what literary text should exist inside a comic book universe canon, ie, Wally West reading Harry Potter in the JL Watchtower, you dig?)

One of Mikayla’s favorite books is Fight Club by Chuck Palahinuk and in her absolutely stunning story (available online as soon as we both get our act together and finish editing it /shameless-plug), one of the main characters justifies his love of Fight Club by offering this explanation: “It’s a bible for the fatherless lost boys.”

And that, ladies and gents and ponies, is exactly why I think Fight Club should exist in the Batman universe if only to give Dick Grayson something to hold onto as he’s becoming Robin in his adolescence and as he loses sight of (and regains) Bruce as a father figure in his adult life.

I remember this passage very well from my first time reading this book:

The mechanic says, “If you’re male and you’re Christian and living in America, your father is your model for God. And if you never know your father, if your father bails out or dies or is never at home, what do you believe about God?”

In some cases, this is exactly how Dick came to be the person and superhero he is today. Batman and Bruce Wayne were the two figures in his life that he could live up to and, no matter what sort of bullcrap Bruce (or Dick) spits out, it was always implied that Dick, his first Robin, was the son he never had (until Damian!)


So what about you? Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.

Q&A # 194: Who is your favorite Disney Princess?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Who is your favorite Disney Princess?


ALI

“I’m a damsel, I’m in distress, I can handle this. Have a nice day.”

Meg from the highly under-rated Hercules is by far and away my favorite Disney Princess. She’s smart, independent and witty, but she’s also dark and twisty and literally soulless (no really! she sold her soul to Hades to save her boyfriend who then dumped her for a younger, hotter model.) Basically I love her because she’s one of those damaged and flawed characters that I love so much, which is not at all the typical Disney Princess. In fact, Meg is not included in the officially branded Disney Princesses. I think it’s partly because she’s dark and twisty and partly because I think Disney likes to kind of sweep Hercules under the rug.

So, if we’re talking the branded Disney Princesses, I have to pick Ariel.

Yes, she’s kind of a spoiled brat. But she proactively makes the changes she wants to see in her life, even though she makes some really poor choices in execution. And once when I was in fifth grade, someone told me I looked like Ariel and it was probably the best moment of my epically awkward tween life.


JESSICA

For me, it’s a tie between Belle and Pocahontas. Belle was made for me to fall in love with – her favorite pastime is reading, she’s a brunette (okay, so this probably mattered more to me when I was a kid than it does now, but even today she’s the only Disney princess with hair that even remotely resembles my own), and she’s totally brave. When she volunteers to take her father’s place? Damn girl. Plus that library, with the sliding ladders? That’s pretty much the only thing I want from my life.

But I’ve always had an affinity for Pocahontas too. She’s just…awesome. And so different from every other princess Disney has to offer. The songs she sings are beautiful, I love how her “palace,” so to speak, is the world around her, and, again, she’s just super brave and awesome. I’m not normally into it when historical-based narratives make big changes to, you know, history, but I’m completely on board with the way Disney chose to end Pocahontas. It’s completely atypical for them. She has the choice to leave with John Smith, and she doesn’t. She decides that there is something more important than following her boyfriend across the ocean to an unfamiliar land. As a character, she’s super strong. And breathtaking, also. Those lips? Those cheekbones? She’s completely gorgeous even though she looks nothing like any of the princesses who came before her.


MARIE

Although she isn’t technically a princess, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Mulan. She’s a heroine that you can root for: she’s clever, funny, and she tries no matter how staggering the odds are. At the beginning of her journey, she starts out as a girl who isn’t quite sure who she is or knows where she belongs. It’s a pretty relatable and universal problem–especially among the young girls that belonged to the movie’s target demographic. I found her whole arc touching and fascinating because she goes through all the emotional ups and downs of coming to terms with not only she is, but who she wants to be.

I also like her because she can kick serious ass and knows how to use a sword.


SARA

This is, without a doubt, the most difficult question I’ve had to answer in a long time. Choose a favorite Disney princess? I’d no sooner be able to choose a favorite star from the heavens.

(Bonus points to those who picked up that quote!)

It comes down to two, really, and those two represent two facets of my being: who I am most like and who I most want to be.

As to the former, I am the most like Belle. Love of reading? Check. Stubborness? Check. Daddy’s girl? Check. Need to have more than a provincial life? Double check.

Belle is someone I never really considered as a favorite growing up. I looked more to Jasmine then, for both the Arab/Middle Eastern background and the insanely hot prince ;) Belle is someone I grew to appreciate as I grew older and my personality was much more defined by my interests. Plus, she has the most beautiful dress!

To the latter of my posed dichotomy is Tiana, a woman that I desperately want to be more like. She is strong, hard-working, dedicated. Honestly, to a procrastinator like myself, I cannot fathom a better role-model than Tiana.

Plus? She also has the most beautiful dress!

But, in all seriousness, Disney provided me with my first (and, in some cases, most influential) role-models. Disney women do not sit idly by. They take life by the reins and steer themselves to happiness. Tiana’s story is the most blatantly characteristic of that ideal and I love her for it.


So what about you? Who is your favorite Disney Princess?

Q&A #192: What canceled television series do you miss most?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What canceled television series do you miss most?


ANIKA

#SWAG

I know what you’re thinking. Law and Order was on for twenty years. Compared to House (8 seasons) or Fringe (4 1/2 seasons) or Firefly (14 episodes) or Wonderland (8 episodes; only 2 aired)…does it really count as a “canceled” series? But I honestly miss it daily. And specifically this team led by Thomas Wayne and the wonder that was Jack McCoy as DA.

The real issue (as I’ve mentioned) is that it didn’t have a series finale. It hurts me. But at least the series didn’t end on a cliffhanger, like Hellcats which I will NEVER GET OVER –

#crying forever

(And speaking of Aly Michalka, I also miss Phil of the Future)

aka Doctor Who Junior

– or Alien Nation.

I was the same age as Emily Francisco and I completely identified with her. I had a crush on her bad boy big brother. I obsessively shipped Matt and Cathy. I loved this show. I was thirteen years old and I wanted it to be real life.

I watched the post-series TV movies and I read the books (Passing Fancy is my favorite)…I got more closure here than I did with Law and Order. But when I suggested this question for Q&A, Alien Nation was why.


CAROLINE

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is not a show that I really expected to enjoy. I’m a huge fan of the original Terminator movie, but increasingly less so of the sequels. The first film is an elegant little time travel paradox (it might not seem that way because of all the explosions, but underneath it really is), and the more you try to add to that, the more you risk wrecking the whole thing. So I didn’t think the franchise was a great candidate for a TV show.

TSCC proved me wrong though. Partly, it did so through an amazing cast — Lena Headey before Game of Thrones, Summer Glau and Thomas Dekker and Brian Austin “When did he get that hot?” Green as her improvised family unit. Antagonists included Richard T. Jones, the super-creepy Garrett Dillahunt and Shirley Manson (?!!). What I enjoyed most about this show, though, were the week-to-week stories. The ongoing story arc of each season was interesting enough, but in a fascinating way, these characters who were so determined to fulfill their mission and ignore the world around them kept getting pulled into the world of people around them. The show never forgot that these other lives were just as real and important as the intrigues surrounding the heroes.

This show was cancelled way before its time, and it also happens to have one of the best cliffhanger endings I’ve ever seen. So much potential, so many stories we’ll never see. I miss this show!


GABBY

Sigh. Veronica Mars, how I love your quick-witted, bashful and seriously ass-kicking self.

I miss this show so much, especially since it did not get the ending it deserved. I remember reading somewhere that the creator had [SPOILER] purposefully ended the show as a season finale, with Veronica walking away in the rain (to this amazing song), so that it would sway the network in giving them an additional season.

Needless to say that never happened, and we never got closure about anything. What happened to Keith, Veronica’s dad? Did he get elected as sheriff, or did he get locked up for tampering with evidence? Who did the marshmallow herself end up with, Piz or Logan? What about Wallace? His last scene wasn’t worthy of the epic goodbye between friends that shouldv’e been.

Ultimately, I’m glad that this show existed. It’s the first show that made me love a bad boy (seriously, I pick Angel over Spike any day – actually, I just pick neither), that presented a loving and hilarious father-daughter duo and a that had a murder storyline that kept me guessing up until the very last scene (Lilly Kane was amazing, wasn’t she?).

I’m due for a re-watch.

(Oh, and in case you’d like to see what a fourth season would have looked like, check these out).


JESSICA

I have mixed feelings when it comes to canceled television shows–on the one hand, it’s annoying (and sometimes heartbreaking) to be deprived of a show that you have become really invested in, but on the other, if a good show ends up running for only one or two seasons, those seasons are usually pretty damn near perfect. After all, only the good die young. Sometimes it’s easier for me to think back wistfully of the one and only really terrific season of a show than to watch a series I love die a slow, painful, hokey, jumping the shark death (thinking about seasons eight and nine of The X-Files still stings).

With this in mind, some canceled television shows I love, like Freaks and Geeks and Firefly, belong in the first category of single breathtaking seasons. I was devastated to see them go, but these are two shows where every episode is great. There are no throw-aways, no “WHY DID THEY DO THAT”s. Their short runs are bittersweet, but beautiful.

Still, this doesn’t mean that some shows aren’t brutally murdered in the prime of their lives, hacked off of the air as fans release blood curdling screams of horror. In this category fall shows like Arrested Development (although I do have high hopes for the Netflix continuation later this year), Pushing Daises, Wonderfalls, and Dead Like Me (if you are a fan and haven’t already, don’t watch the made-for-television movie wrap-up. It’s painful.). These are shows that keep me wondering what happened to their quirky characters, and I will probably never get over any of them being cancelled. Topping this list might be the show Rome, the HBO drama that recreated Ancient Rome in an engaging and original way. I’m still sick over that one. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. I mean, technically I know what happens, because, you know, history, but still. I need to see it on HBO with scantily clad men running around engaging in political intrigue.


MARIE

I wouldn’t necessarily describe myself as a morbid person, but I definitely have a thing for shows that put a quirky spin on death. That’s why I feel great shows like Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies did not deserve to be buried (see what I did there?) after only two seasons.

Yes, I know that they continued in some capacity with a direct-to-DVD film and a mini-series, but still… there was just so much potential!


SAM

I want to say Doctor Who, because I really wish that the Cartmel Plan had happened and Ace had become a Time Lord. But it’s a good time to be a Whovian, so I’m not going to whine about what could have been, when we’ve got a lot of awesome things that are still happening.

I loved The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Pushing Daisies, and Dead Like Me, which have been mentioned. I mourn the end of my favorite soap, All My Children (coming back soon in a new format!). But a show that still makes me sad everytime I see it scroll by on Netflix is Earth 2. Oh, Earth 2, you were ahead of your time.

It was Firefly meets the New Caprica arc from Battlestar Galactica. It had a surprisingly deep internal mythology, and a great ragtag cast of characters that built to a pretty strong ensemble led by a female character (pre-dating Star Trek: Voyager by a few months).

Earth-2 brought a lot to the table, from strong female characters, to crazy conspiracies, to cool aliens, it ticked off a lot of my boxes for what I look for in a science fiction show. It’s currently streaming on Netflix (hint hint).


SARA

So, my first answer was the same as Gabby’s. But, she did such a great job describing all my FEELS, I’ll leave it there. Thank you, Gabby. You spoke for all us Martians!

I guess the show I would say that I miss the most is Justice League Unlimited.

Can you look upon all these heros and not flail? I think not. Epic. Even the title sequence was epic. Chills down my spine.

What. A. Show. Funny, smart, heartbreaking. It was not just a cartoon. It was not just for children. It was not just anything but an amazing show.

Baby Justice Leaguers are offended at the implication that their show is for children.

It could have gone on forever, but the way it ended could not have been any more perfect. For me, JLU was an extension of my love of Batman: The Animated Series and of Batman Beyond. Bruce Timm is flaw free in my eyes. To have the most epic animated series in the history of DC end in a way that brought my childhood full circle? I cried. Cried a bunch and, when I rehydrated, cried some more. To see Bruce and Terry connected like that and all because of The Wall? Phenomenal doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Ugh. The Wall. She is so kickass!

(I’m being deliberately vague because I do not want to spoil those of you who have not watched this series and will obviously want to after reading my blurb about it…uh. Right.)

Also, I dare you to find a more terrifying villain than Joker in JLU. Freaking nuts doesn’t say enough.

So, as much as I would welcome (read: jump up and down screaming like a banshee) more JLU, it had the best send-off I could ever imagine a beloved show getting.


So what about you? What canceled television series do you miss most?

Q&A #191: What comic do you, personally, want to be a character in?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What comic do you, personally, want to be a character in?


ALI

Phonogram. If only for the selfish reason that I will never be as cool as everyone in the Phonoverse. Actually, I kind of take that back. Most of the characters in Phonogram are flawed and emotionally dented and bruised. But they look so freaking cool. I mean, how could you NOT want your life to be like this?

AND there’s the whole music is magic thing, which I really dig. What I dig even more is that you can kind of lean how to be a Phonomancer. You wouldn’t be as powerful as those born into it, but you can learn a bit to have fun.

But who am I kidding. If I were ever going to be in a comic book I’d want to be a superhero. Not anything huge, a third or fourth string Avenger or X-Men. Just this girl who lives in Brooklyn and uses her telekinesis to help people. So… basically I want to be in Hawkeye.

I’d look really damn cool in that comic too.


GABBY

Since Marie swiped my default answer (it’s a pretty great answer, Marie), I’m forced to really think about it. And something just keeps coming back: I’d like to be working in the library of Dream’s castle, “The Dreaming”.

What a wonderfully clever idea; a library made of books we’ve never written. I’d be Lucien’s assistant, working in the ever-changing stacks of books, reading excerpts of people’s dream-novels.

I think I’d be willing to weather Dream’s mood swings and tantrums for that job.


MARIE

I’d most likely would want to be a character in Joss Whedon’s Buffyverse comics. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was an extremely influential series for me, so to have a chance to play around in that sandbox as a new Slayer would be pretty rad.

Radness.


SARA

I’ve spent most of my comic-fandom life in the Batman universe, so Batfamily here I come! But, seriously, I live my life with a lot of fictional characters leading the way, forging my path, but I believe the top two influences have to be Hermione Granger and Barbara Gordon.

And what do these lovely, other-worldly ladies have in common? Um, they are smart, kick-ass, brazen, in your face, brave, compassionate, and live in a perpetual boy’s club without self-combusting.

I want to BE them.

SO, if I were to be in any comic, I would love to be in Batman Beyond and play Batgirl of the future to Terry McGinnis’ Batman. Max and I would spend hours making fun of him and Bruce would have to take up meditation again to prevent himself from killing me.

It would be AWESOME.


So what about you? What comic do you, personally, want to be a character in?

Lupercalia!

Hello all! Today’s post is something we cooked up in honor of Lupercalia, the ancient Roman festival traditionally celebrated on the 15th of the kalends of March. For those in the audience not fluent in the calendars of ancient civilizations (how could you not be?), that means February 15th!

Now, unless you are/were a classics major or spent a good deal of time in the Remus Lupin section of the Harry Potter fandom, this holiday probably means nothing to you. Well, for the sake of clarification (and for re-living my (Sara’s) glory days in the Remus Lupin section of the Harry Potter fandom), Lupercalia is a fertility festival primarily and an homage to Lupa, the she-wolf that suckled Remus and Romulus, founders of Rome.

The ritual involves scantily dressed men running through the hills of Rome, where the women congregate in hopes of being smacked by the goat hides that the scantily dressed men are waving around. This was to guarantee fertility and prosperity.

an artist's rendition of a Lupercalia ceremony

I know what you’re all thinking. How could we have let this tradition die out?!

Unless we didn’t let it die out and there is a small faction of pagan Roman enthusiasts that recreate this ritual in the West Village every year.

Hey, every time I go to the West Village, there are scantily dressed men running around beating people with cloth.

Although, they are mostly hitting other men and the cloth isn’t so much cloth as it is vegan leather bondage whips. And, come to think of it, fertility really isn’t the goal here, so it’s possible that we really did let Lupercalia die out. Endless sad face.

I digress. The purpose of this post (other than educating you on the coolest of the cool ancient Roman festivals) is to pay tribute to the wolves in our fandom lives! Think about it! How many amazing wolves are lurking around Tumblr and Livejournal? Check out our choices for top wolves in fandom below:

SARA

Remus Lupin (Harry Potter)

a still of Remus Lupin as portrayed by David Thewlis

The first and truest of my werewolf loves. When I was in the Harry Potter fandom (I use the past tense in a mostly ironic sense as you can’t really leave the Harry Potter fandom. Ever.), I spent most of my time in the Marauder era, obsessively thinking up ways the Marauders would traumatize the school and themselves in pursuit of a good laugh. My favorite of the foursome was Remus. I’ve always been one to feel a kinship (or a burning adolescent crush) for amazing teachers and Remus fit that bill.

After one blatantly evil, murderous Defense Against the Dark Arts professor and another more covert evil and vain Defense Against the Dark Arts professor, Remus Lupin was a breath of fresh air. He actually taught Harry things. He carried chocolate. He was one-fourth of the most ingenious pranking group Hogwarts had ever seen until the Weasley twins.

I was in love.

That and I was the Moony of my Marauder pranking group in middle/high school. We were very much alike, at least as far as my headcanon as to his personality in his school days.

Either way, Remus Lupin was my introduction into the world of werewolves and I have had a soft spot for them ever since.

Jacob Black (Twilight)

a still of Jacob Black as portrayed by Taylor Lautner (shirtless)

Before anyone gets into a snit, I know Jacob isn’t a werewolf. He’s a shape-shifter who shifts into a wolf. Because we are paying tribute to the wolves in our fandom lives, he makes the list.

And he certainly brings a lot of, um, assets to the list, doesn’t he? I am of course speaking of the amazing way his CGI was handled in the Twilight movies.

If there was one problem with the third Harry Potter movie that I could have fixed, it would have been the werewolf CGI. Hermione even says in the book that the only difference between a werewolf and real wolf is a shorter tail and a longer snout. I’m pretty sure she would have mentioned the alikeness to a yeti had there been one.

So, as much as it pains me to say, Twilight one-upped the Harry Potter movies in one respect. Their wolves are amazing.

Focusing more on Jacob, I really do enjoy his character for the most part. He’s sarcastic and loyal and warm and protective. All in all, very lupine.

Scott McCall (Teen Wolf)

a promotional image of Scott McCall as portrayed by Tyler Posey

My newest (and rather deep) obsession comes in the form of Teen Wolf, which I picked as my favorite TV show of the moment in a Q&A a couple of weeks back.

I LOVE what they’ve done with the werewolf mythos in this world. More so than Harry Potter and Twilight, Teen Wolf—which has the luxury of focusing on the werewolf supernatural, versus sharing time with vampires and other magic folk—dives into a society that co-exists mostly parallel with run-of-the-mill human lives. Of course, parallel lines never met Peter Hale or Kate Argent, so the show begins when these worlds collide and an ordinary, asthmatic teenager gets bitten and becomes, surprise surprise, a teen wolf.

Fun, huh?

Scott McCall was just taking an innocent stroll through the woods, searching for half of a dead body with his best fri—wait, you guys don’t do that with your best friends? Huh.

Anyway. Scott gets dragged out into some really creepy woods by his best friend and partner in crime in the middle of the night and things happen and he gets bitten by a werewolf. So begins a journey of self-discovery, murder, mayhem, and really attractive shirtless dudes.

No, but seriously. This show is on MTV. There are a lot of shirtless dudes. I’m pretty sure Derek only owns three shirts, because that is the only way he could spend so much time shirtless.

In this show, we get a look at hierarchical structures in a werewolf pack, the trials and tribulations of bitten and born wolves, and—the most cool—how wolves are targeted by humans out to destroy them under the guise of something called the Code.

Scott, who is not always the center of fandom attention, is in fact the main character (don’t let Tumblr tell you otherwise). It took me a while to warm up to him because his relationship drama in season one often took away from the action of the show and I got annoyed pretty quickly. But, thankfully, I came to my senses and learned to love Scott. Who is another one of my precious baby boys.

Well, that devolved rapidly.

He is smart (emotionally), adorable, caring, protective, and fiercely loyal. A+ character.

GABBY

Oz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

a still of Oz as portrayed by Seth Green (in a rubber wolf mask)

“Who is that girl?”

I must say, though I loved Willow and Tara together, Willow and Oz were my favorite TV couple while I was watching Buffy. I feel like they brought out the best in each other (until they didn’t), and always thought everyone should aspire to be a little more like Oz: aloof, cool, with a little bit of an ironic edge.

I think my favorite thing about him was the matter of fact way in which he turned into a werewolf. Basically, he tickled his cousin, who in turn bit him (apparently he wasn’t fond of tickling!). When Oz wakes up naked in the forest, he calls up his aunt, and asks her if the boy is a werewolf. She says yes, and that’s that. No big reveal, no secrets. Oz has become, as matter-of-factly as his personality, a werewolf. Throughout the rest of his run on the show, Oz represented, to me, the idealized version of a teenager: playing in a band, popular in an underground way, a good friend, and a werewolf, to boot. I wished with all my heart that I would be friends with Oz.

That’s why the way in which he departed from the show made no sense to me; it felt completely out of character. For him to succumb to the “animalistic envies” of his wolf through Veruca felt shallow and undeserving towards the guy who had always been “cool” in the face of danger. I loved the fact that he came back in “New Moon Rising” as I felt more closure with this next-to last appearance. The icing on the Oz cake was the scooby gang’s visit in Tibet in Buffy: Season 8: I loved reading about his new life there, with werewolf wife and son, Bayarmaa and Kelden. A fitting end to a wonderful character; I will always love you, Daniel “Oz” Osbourne.

Tyler Lockwood (The Vampire Diaries)

a picture of Michael Trevino, TVD's Tyler Lockwood

If Oz’ transformation into a werewolf was completely underrated, the same cannot be said of Tyler Lockwood’s. I forget there was ever a before-werewolf Tyler; a mean jock who everyone called a “dick”. The second season was Tyler’s time to shine, though, and in “Masquerade”, as he breaks a girl’s neck, we see in his wolf eyes that the curse of the moon is triggered. Having no idea what’s about to happen to him, he watches a video that his uncle made of his own first transformation. We see it: it looks horrible AND it lasts more than 5 hours. Poor Tyler is scared out of his wits, and who wouldn’t be?

I think out of all the werewolves, his transformation was the most traumatic and well-done. The pace of his whole ordeal is optimal; in five episodes, we go from the trigger of the curse to the first transformation. The manner of his werewolf-ness is entrenched in the mythology of the show, too, and very elaborate. Not only did he have to kill a human to trigger the curse, but he has to spend hours in agony, chained up, every time a full moon comes around. Michael Trevino was amazing in “By the Light of the Moon”, as his body contorted and he was screaming out in pain to Caroline to “make it stop”. I will never forget watching that episode and gripping my pillow so tight my knuckles turned white.

Tyler has gone through many transformations since that first time in the Lockwood cellar; no longer only a werewolf, he’s the last hybrid standing (one of Klaus’ pets, half-werewolf, half-vampire), and apart from Caroline, Tyler has nothing left to lose. I’m excited to see what’s coming up next for his character.

SAM

Dyson (Lost Girl)

a picture of Dyson as portrayed by Kris Holden-Reid

Listen, I’m team Doccubus. I want to get that out of the way immediately, so nobody doubts my loyalties (or sensibilities). But any list of werewolves in pop culture needs to include Detective Wolfy McBrooderfae. He’s, like, a thousand years old, he can only really love once in his entire lifetime, and he gave that up for Bo. Aw. I mean, I guess. He’s no Hot Pants. But he’s the Wolf, and that’s pretty cool too.

There are definitely things I like about Dyson. He’s got awesome vests. The rest of his clothes are pretty cool, too. I like his beard and his Chris Martin hair. Beyond the superficial, I like his loyalty, which seems to be the central pillar of his character. Even when he has a crisis of… self, I guess (I imagine giving up your only chance to feel love will do that to you), he can’t stay away from the fight for long. He’s a good guy through and through, and he’ll fight fang and claw for his friends.

And he seems to take his shirt off a lot. If that’s your kind of thing.

Alcide Herveaux (True Blood)

a still of Alcide as portrayed by Joe Manganiello

Oh Alcide. I love Alcide. I’ve read the Sookie Stackhouse books (well, the first 6 or 7), but book-Alcide never made much of an impression on me. I’m not sure what it is about the television version of Alcide that works so much for me. Maybe it’s his quiet intensity that can build to a pretty epic eruption of passion. Or the fact that he’s a billion feet tall (I met Joe Manganiello at Dragon*Con last fall, and he’s really a billion feet tall). Or that his thing with Sookie ran its course with relatively little drama. Yeah, that helps.

I really loved his storyline this past season on True Blood, when he had a crisis of wolfdom, but stepped up and became leader of his own pack. He dealt with daddy issues, vampire issues, girlfriend issues and political issues, and he he never lost that slow burn intensity that makes him so appealing. I don’t say this about a lot of dudes, but I totally get why people find him attractive. He’s loyal (trend!), strong, and tortured. Basically everything a good wolf in fiction should be, right?

ANIKA

Rahne Sinclair (X-Men)

a picture of Rahne Sinclair/Wolfsbane in New Mutants

Rahne is one of the Marvel mutants whose been around forever but always on the sidelines. She’s on the fringe teams like New Mutants and X-Factor and the Hellions. Like pretty much every X-person she had a traumatic childhood that culminated in becoming a freak with the onset of puberty. In Rahne’s case she’s a lycanthrope. But she’s more like Jacob than a traditional werewolf because she can control her transformation, and retains her intelligence in wolf form. Rahne can also maintain a transitional part-wolf, part-human form.

Like most werewolves (and most mutants), Rahne often struggles with self-loathing. She’s naturally shy and compassionate. Sweet. But she has a strong temper (she’s a redheaded Scot) and turns into a wild animal. Most of her stories revolve around trying to blend these two sides into a cohesive person she is comfortable being…while supervillains, unrequited crushes, angry mobs, and the occasional war on and/or between mutants explode around her.

You know. The usual.

The X-Men are often touted as an allegory for disenfranchised minority groups and Wolfsbane fits right into that idea. She wants to be herself and have that be okay. Be accepted and supported and respected. And sometimes, when she’s not, it makes her so mad she howls and claws and loses her mind a little bit. And the secret is, that’s okay, too.

Red (Once Upon a Time)

a still of Red as portrayed by Meghan Ory

Ruby Lucas snuck up on me. At the beginning of Once Upon a Time she was shiniest background character, dressed in tiny tops and tinier skirts, with bright red lips and boots and nary a hood in sight. When she started coming out of the background I liked her (Meghan Ory is great, by the way, and has chemistry with literally everyone), but I didn’t love her. I would root for her but I didn’t relate to her. Even when her secret was revealed — Little Red and the Big Bad Wolf are one and the same — I was only mildly interested. I’m not a lover of werewolves or monster within stories. Those aren’t my stories, the ones I am drawn to and relate to and tell over and over.

But in the second season, something changed. One, Ruby met up with Belle and their retelling of Beauty and the Beast is about four hundred million times more interesting to me than Belle’s with Rumplestiltskin (even if it remains a completely platonic friendship). Two, they started to play more with Ruby’s wolf side. She tracks, she snarls, she makes little quips about the situation. She’s traded her red minis for grey furs. She’s becoming comfortable with the wolf, and that is leading to being completely herself instead of two opposing sides. And that leads to three, she’s better off, and happier, in Storybrooke than she was in the Enchanted Forest and she knows it. To me, that is the most interesting place for a character to be — not yet there but self-aware .

The story of Little Red Riding Hood has always been a metaphor for growing up: walking bravely but naively into the dark forest, taking a few wrong turns and trusting a few bad people, and learning from the experience. Ruby’s current story has brought her to a new but equally unknown and dangerous place but she’s gained a few tricks and she’s still brave. She’s not afraid of the big bad wolves; she’s ready to run with them.

The Starks of Winterfell (Game of Thrones)

a still of Robb Stark, as portrayed by Richard Madden, with wolf pups

The Starks would be content left alone in their border kingdom so far North “winter” is synonymous with “power”. Left alone, Ned would be alive, Sansa would be free, Bran would be whole. Life would be simpler. But wolves do not live a simple life. They roam. They howl at the light. And they protect the pack, whatever it takes.

Wolves develop close relationships and strong social bonds. They often demonstrate deep affection for their family and may even sacrifice themselves to protect the family unit. (Defenders)

Ned defined his pack to include the King and the Kingdom — Robb did the same when he accepted the title “King of the North”. Catelyn defines it as her blood, an imagined power Sansa clings to in her exile. Young Bran and Rickon understand that home is not their castle but the land they roam and the family they run with. Clever Arya builds a pack wherever she goes, with whoever is there. And though denied the birthright, Jon Snow is the most wolflike of all.

As a pack they share: pride, resilience, and a generosity of spirit that the rest of the realm would rather burn to the ground. But the wolves will lay down their lives to defend it.