Q&A # 202: Flashback: What comic-based television series would you like to see?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Flashback: What comic-based television series would you like to see?


ANIKA

I thought so when I first saw it and I still think so:

DREDD would make a great television series. It didn’t work as a film for me, but as the pilot for a television series that wasn’t picked up so they said ‘screw it, let’s add a bunch of nonsensical 3D and call it a movie’. . . it worked too well. I just really wish my hypothetical network that passed on “Dredd the Series” actually existed so I could bang on their door and shout WHY!

Seriously, hypothetical television network, make this!


GABBY

Well, one of my answers is already coming to life on the small screen.

As for the others, for a long while I wished Fables would become a TV show, but Once Upon a Time kind of ruined that. Not to say that OUaT isn’t good… it’s just not what I think Fables could have been. I’m also holding out hope for an Alias series, and it seems like the rumor mill agrees with me.

The TV show I would *most* like to see, though, is a Sandman series.

A series centered on the Endless siblings, it could also have an episodic quality. We could see, for example, Death interacting with various humans about to die, or Dream venture into people’s nightmares. I think there is a huge potential to exploit the sibling dynamics between the 7 Ds, and would love to see it unfold on my screen.

Superheroes are great and everything, but The Endless? They kind of rule.


MARIE

My choice has technically already been a television show, but was unfortunately canceled during its prime. Greg Weisman’s Gargoyles was an animated series that debuted in the 90s and was one my favorite shows of all time growing up. The show aged pretty well too. Looking back through the DVDs, you could see that it had plots that were well-rendered, characters with deep inner-conflict, and great dialogue that could be enjoyed by both kids and adults.

Unfortunately, Weisman left the show during the third season due to internal conflicts. By then, the show had taken a completely different direction and most fans agreed that it was non-canonical. The comic series, however, picked up where the second season left off, and answered a lot of those burgeoning questions that the third season so clearly failed at handling.

Still, while I found the comics immensely satisfying I still wish that they had actually been animated. If not Gargoyles, then at least some of the spin-off comics that Weisman had also planned like Gargoyles: Pendragon and Gargoyles: Timedancer .

My runner-up choice? Runaways. Oh my Grod, Runaways.

run


SAM

Last summer I took a screenwriting workshop, and for my main project I wrote a loose adaptation of Kate Spencer/Manhunter as a sort of pilot episiode teleplay. I think a Manhunter series would be a perfect mix of procedural and ass kicking martial arts bad assery.

There are reasons I think Kate Spencer would make for good TV. Besides her day job as a criminal attorney (I think prosecutor works better than defense attorney, for drama), she’s a single parent with a precocious kid, has an ex-husband who’s still involved in her life, is an on-again-off-again smoker, and has some anger issues. Basically she’s complex and, in the hands of the right actress, that would be pretty great to watch.

Of course, I know it’ll never happen. It would have way too similar a feel to the already-popular, male-driven show Arrow (which I gave up on halfway through the season). And Manhunter is even less well known in the mainstream than Green Arrow and his rogues galleries. Plus we all know how well the Wonder Woman thing went… But in a perfect world, Kate Spencer would be kicking some ass on my TV every week.


So what about you? What comic-based television series would you like to see?

Chit Chat: Iron Man 3

Chit chat is a dialogue between two or more of our contributors. It’s done online 99% of the time but you can imagine us discussing it over coffee. Or vodka, depending on the subject material.

Anika: Today we’re talking Iron Man 3. This conversation contains MANY SPOILERS for the film and franchise.

J.A.R.V.I.S.

First, did you like it? How much? What grade might you give it?

Ali: I hate the grading system because… I just do. I always make up arbitraty numbers or letters. Like, I give Iron Man 3 a banana because it’s really good but it’s not my most favorite fruit.

Sara: I really, really enjoyed this movie. It exceeded my expectations and I spent such a long time after the movie ended remembering parts that made me happy or gasp out loud or really appreciate the genre that this movie is a part of. Iron Man was the first to kick off the Marvel Cinematic Universe and RDJ has shouldered a lot of weight since the beginning. He’s risen to the occasion and with Iron Man 3, he gave more depth to a Tony we all know well from the comics. I guess I give it an A- because I loved it, but there were weaknesses. And I am totally not as clever as Ali, forever sad about it.

Ali: Bananas aside, I agree with Sara. This installment gave Tony a LOT of depth. And I liked it for that.

Tony has a special room to display his issues.

Tony has a special room to display his issues.

Anika: I have to agree, this Tony Stark was my favourite Tony Stark other than the one that exists in my head … because he basically is the one that exists in my head. In every previous encounter, including Avengers, Pepper has been my favourite but in this one it was Tony. And it has a lot, if not everything, to do with his anxiety (you are not surprised) — what did you think of that arc?

Ali: I LOVED the panic attacks.

Sara: Tony was on top of the world at the beginning of the Avengers. He had the girl, the renewable energy source, the Iron Man suit, and a arc reactor that wasn’t turning his insides into sludge. He had nowhere to go but down. I really enjoyed his interactions with reality via the panic attacks.

Anika: Do you think that plotline reached a satisfactory conclusion?

Sara: Um, no. But I don’t think it was supposed to. I think that is best left up to Avengers 2, where Tony is going to have to make the concious decision to join up with the people that put him in the position of being lost in space. (I know nothing for sure, this is my guesstimation about what will happen in that movie)

Ali: I mean, it’s a bit tidy at the end because it’s a movie and it has to be. But I like that he’s having a panic attack on his way to fighting the bad guys. And I like that they show him learning to pull himself out of it.

Anika: I agree with both these points. (1) It has to be tied up for the movie but (2) the MCU is an ongoing drama . . . Just like the comic books it’s based on! Imagine that!

Sara: Word.

Ali: I like that while he’s having he first attack, he refuses to believe that’s what’s happening to him. I love Tony for his confidence and his brashness–he permantently has that youthful “I’m invincibleness”. And in this movie, he’s learning that that’s SO not the case anymore. It’s a very basic and very real lesson of growing up. And that’s really what Tony starts to do in this movie.

Anika: Which is interesting because it’s what he thought he was doing in the first movie but “coming of age” is a long journey.

Ali: It’s like Iron Man is “look at me being responsible and shit! I AM AN ADULT”, Iron Man 2 is “I AM AN ADULT YOU GUYS! I DRINK AND BLOW THINGS UP” and Avengers is “fine, I will work with you because I AM A GROWN UP NOW.” and then Iron Man 3 is “holy shit I’m an adult… this sucks.”

Sara: Yes. This movie was Tony in his late twenties.

Ali: Which I love because he should be well beyond that at this point!

Sara: I feel like Tony was in his “college years” for most of his life.

Anika: That’s what happens when you live without boundaries. Which is a great segue into Tony’s boundaries: Pepper and Rhodey. I want to start with Rhodey because I cannot say enough great things about him.

James Rhodes

Ali: I love Rhodey. And I love Don Cheadle. But it’s like when Jim Henson passed away and the Muppets all sounded wrong.

Anika: I sort of felt that way in 2, but not here. Here he owned it.

Sara: What? Why?! I vastly prefer Don Cheadle to Terrence Howard!

Ali: I keep expecting Terrance Howard and Don Cheadle seems to be doig a psuedo impersonation of Howard and it’s weird to me.

Sara: I think Don Cheadle really pulled off the wry and dry comedy that is needed for the role of Rhodey. And the scene with Rhodey and Tony in the resteraunt was everything I ever wanted for a post-Avengers Tony.

Ali: That restuarant scene was perfect.

Anika: I don’t have a preference for Howard or Cheadle — I wasn’t really invested in the character in the first two films. Only in his relationship to Tony. But in this film, well, Rhodey Rox!

Sara: I love how, like Cap, his patriotism and some what old school brand of heroism comes off as sincere and admirable, rather than douchey and two dimensional.

Ali: Yes!

Sara: He’s a perfect foil for the flashy and grandstanding rebel that is Tony and it’s why he works so well in this movie. This narrative was about Tony falling to pieces and needing something to hold onto. Rhodey (and Pepper) is that stability. He is steadfast and true and so very necessary to Tony’s development.

Pepper Potts

Anika: Now Pepper.

Ali: PEPPER FREAKING POTTS

Sara: Bless GP, that woman is flaw-free.

Ali: At the end? With the fire ninja stuff? She’s just the best ever.

Sara: My precious, kickass Pepperpot.

Anika: Y’all know I love Pepper. Pepper has been my girl since the first movie. But…

Ali: I love how at the start of the movie Tony’s all “I have to protect you because I can’t lose you.” And Pepper’s freaking Pepper. She’s capable and can take care of herself AND Tony. And I love, love, LOVE that they let her save him, in a very physical way, not once but TWICE.

Sara: “Got you.” I think that broke me so many times.

Ali: She is the very opposite of a damsel in distress.

Anika: But but but…. she was already. She was that in the first movie. In both the first and second films she literally runs INTO distress to save the day. Everybody loves kickass fire ninja hardcore Pepper and I’m over here all SHE WAS ALREADY PERFECT.

Sara: That’s the thing. Whether she’s in 4 inch Louboutins or overheating in spandex and sports bras, Pepper has always been HBIC. Because, so unlike Tony, she knows that her emotions (her worries, her grasp of reality) are not something to be avoided or buried. They are there to make you strong and that’s why she’s always been a HBIC and she’s always been Tony’s rock, even while she is tearing up or teetoring over the edge of some building. Pepper Potts is a woman that won’t let anything stop her from doing what needs to be done.

Anika's favourite quote.

Ali: She was and she did. But I think with the other movies, it’s not as apparent to Tony.

Anika: I disagree, in the first she’s the one he counts on and in the second he gives her his company.

Ali: Like she’s saving the day and putting herself in danger, but she’s helping Tony. In this movie, she’s saving Tony.

Sara: Physically, maybe. But I think Pepper is a huge reason why Tony hasn’t expired in a pool of his own vomit. Or why he got up in the morning and did real people things. Pepper has been saving Tony ever since he met her.

Anika: I do love the ‘Got you’ scene but I didn’t love the end as much. “That was really violent” was maybe my favourite line reading in the whole movie but it WAS really violent which felt kinda off.

Sara: It was terrifying.

Anika: Though it may be all tied up in my general dislike of Killian as a villain. For me, the scene plays better in the rewrite in my head…

Ali: Did anyone notice his dragon tattoos? I was totally distracted by them.

Anika: Yeah, they popped out at the end there. I guess because he’s the real Mandarin??

Sara: Ooooooh, I didn’t get that from before.

This is the best image of the tattoos I could find. To make up for it Caroline sent me Guy Pearce with chest hair and tiger cubs.

This is the best image of the tattoos I could find. To make up for it Caroline sent me Guy Pearce unbuttoned with tiger cubs.

Ali: Like, were they there the whole time? Why don’t they blend in with the general fireness of his skin? Do you think he got them when he was still all pimply? Or did he get them because he got all bad ass?

Sara: I’d guess the latter.

Ali: I think he got them right after the roof-top incident. “I’ll show you Tony Stark! Look at my bad-ass dragons!”

Anika: Ahahaha, that is my headcanon now.

Sara: Same.

Anika: So, how strong did you find the villains? Killian, Maya, “Mandarin”?

Mandarin?

Ali: I loved the twist with the Mandarin. I thought it was brilliant. Well, I thought Ben Kingsley as Trevor was brilliant.

Anika: I started to suspect something when they were discussing “the Master” but I really enjoyed that, yes.

Sara: This is just the most brillant of analyses and everyone needs to read this at some point. It says anything I want to say about it.

Ali: I was kinda bummed Maya ended up being Team Bad Guy.

Anika: That’s in my rewrite-the-ending too! There is no reason for her to be dead. And she cared about Tony AND Pepper. I wanted and expected her to come back for the final battle.

Ali: I mean, she wasn’t a bad guy-bad guy. And I can see how she ended up there. But still. I had a sad. I think her getting killed goes back to the “really violent” thing. Killian is REALLY violent. Just insanely so. So I guess that went into establishing that?

Anika: I didn’t get Killian. Or I wanted him to be better I guess. I think the drama was that even Killian 2.0 was not a good enough foil for Tony Stark… But I wish that was more explicit or they played with it more or Tony realized it?

Sara: Charisma is a poor substitute for genius and that is what Killian tried to pull over on everyone.

Ali: I’m kind of glad he wasn’t that great a foil. Because I think we got to see and appreciate more of Tony’s struggle with Tony. I think if they developed Killian and Mandarin more it would have competed too much.

Anika: I don’t think I want more development, I just thought the themes that I was drawn to were too vague? So I don’t know if they were intentional? Which usually doesn’t bother me, but it does here.

Sara: I agree. I kept waiting for a bigger plot or bigger bad, I guess. As it was, I never understood what Killian was getting at.

Anika: Yeah, what was he even trying to do?

Ali: He was evil and trying to take over the world, duh.

No one can grasp my evil plan.

No one can grasp my evil plan.

Anika: I must assume the VP plot is on the cutting room floor somewhere because it was super random. Also, unrelated, why did this movie come out in May and not for Christmas?

Sara: To sell the DVD for Christmas?

Ali: Ha! I was thinking the same thing – with all the holiday stuff.

Sara: Yeah, Aldrich even kind of rhymes with the Grinch. If I were more clever, I would rewrite the song with appropriate and funny lyrics. But, alas.

Ali: Look, every bad guy can’t be Loki.

Anika: Hey, I’d settle for Justin Hammer.

Sara: Marvel villians aren’t good enough for me.

Anika: There are two more supporting characters to discuss, Happy and Harley. Aside: Everyone in this movie has a crazy name.

From the junior novelization.

From the junior novelization.

Sara: It’s hilarious to me that with Jon Favereau’s demotion from director also had Happy demoted to even less screentime.

Anika: He had more to do though.

Ali: I was gonna say, Happy actually did stuff in this one!

Anika: He was pretty lovable.

Sara: Happy is always lovable and Tony described him as his best friend. Adorbs and totally insulting to Rhodey. Just what Tony strives in life to do.

Anika: And I liked the kid. I liked that Tony basically treated him like one of his robots, which really is more affection than he affords the average person.

Ali: Ha! He did! The kid took the place of the robot!

a screencap of Harley and Tony

Harley is the Tin Dog.

Sara: I loved that comic relief. So needed!

Ali: I love how genius that kid was.

Anika: I liked how normal the town was, too. Like it wasn’t dumbed down or full of freaks just because it was small town Tennessee instead of New York or Malibu. I think the crux of it is I really loved all the details in this movie, but the big picture not as much.

How about we wrap up with favourite moments?

Ali: Pepper and Maya being all serious talking about life and real stuff. I saw it and I was like OMG BECHDEL TEST!

Anika: Passed!

Sara: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Ali: HURRAH!

Ali: I was so excited!

Sara: It’s sad how excited we get because it almost never happens.

Ali: I think that’s why I was so upset she ended up being a villain because she had this really great moment with Pepper.

Anika: I am convinced she had a change of heart because of Pepper.

Sara: Her death was just so stupid.

Ali: Joss Whedon TOTES would have killed her.

Sara: Yeah, but in a better way!

Ali: I think Maya was totally honest and real in that conversation. She wasn’t just trying to manipulate Pepper.

Anika: Right! And Pepper surprised her by understanding. And then she sees Killian hurting Pepper and using her… it’s not faith in Tony that changes her mind, it’s Pepper.

Near death experiences change a person.

Near death experiences change a person.

Anika: Also, I ship it.

Sara: Lol, of course.

Anika: I think the rest of her story was cut too. But she can come back. I will start a petition to put her in an Avengers film.

Sara: Where do I sign?

Anika: Other favourite moments:

Ali: Ummmmmmm……giant bunny?

Sara: Barrel of Monkeys.

Ali: Good one! Puppy dog eyes not working?

Anika: When Tony had empty armor walking around and Pepper did not bat one eyelash. She didn’t even look at it.

Ali: Ooh! Ohh! Trevor and the stinky bathroom!

Sara: I was so distracted by Pepper’s abs and Rhodey’s arms for the entirety of that last scene.

Anika: Tony going back for DUM-E. I could cry.

Ali: SCIENCE BROS and the after-credit scene!!!!

Marks


Anika’s Rewrite:

Pepper whacks Killian with the pipe.
Tony: I got nothing.
Pepper engages Killian in a debate… “Why are you DOING this? This isn’t YOU?”
Killian: Exactly!
He starts to monologue about his cray idea that anonymity is power and he can be anything and anyone even Tony Stark!
Pepper: You’re nothing like Tony Stark. You chose to be nothing.
Killian: *rage*
Tony: Come on, Pep, he’s not worth our time.
Killian: *RAGE*
Killian goes in for the kill on retreating Tony and Pepper.
Maya appears and blasts him out of the sky.
Pepper: That was really –
Tony: Hot, yes.

Maya Hansen for Avengers 2!

Maya Hansen for Avengers 2!

Skipping to Conclusions: Post-Avengers MCU

In geekdom, we see a lot of teasers. Sometimes it’s just an image or the name of a creator, other times it’s a trailer or a simple tag line. Whatever it is, it’s meant to get a reaction from you and start a discussion. Inspired by the anticipation and buzz caused by these teasers, we at Fantastic Fangirls present Skipping to Conclusions in which we speculate about the comics, movies, TV shows, or whatever we’re excited about but hasn’t come out yet.

by Anika

Iron Man 3 opens this week and ushers in a new era: the Post-Avengers Marvel Cinematic Universe. Who knew we’d get here when Iron Man premiered five years ago?

Well, probably Robert Downey Jr. and definitely Tony Stark.

Well, probably Robert Downey Jr. and definitely Tony Stark.

When my brother saw Pepper Potts suiting up in the TV ads for Iron Man 3 he wrote to ask me if I’d secretly written the script.

They are the cutest co-stars in the world.

They are the cutest co-stars in the world.

Sadly, no, but it brings us to the question: Now that the universe is established who do we want to see?

an image of Leonardo DiCaprio

I’m thinking Doctor Strange.

We know that Falcon and Agent 13 are being introduced in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

So who else now wants Rebel Wilson to be an Avenger?

So who else now wants Rebel Wilson to be an Avenger?

If I haven't mentioned before, I strongly approve of this casting.

If I haven’t mentioned before, I strongly approve of this casting.

As well as, of course, The Winter Soldier.

Blatant excuse to post Sebastian Stan with Winter Soldier hair (!!!)

Blatant excuse to post Sebastian Stan with Winter Soldier hair (!!!)

There is an Ant-Man movie.

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 1: Scott and Cassie Lang.

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 1: Scott and Cassie Lang.

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 2: Robots (Vision).

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 2: Robots (Vision).

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 3: Ashley Greene as Janet Van Dyne.

All I want out of an Ant-Man movie part 3: Ashley Greene as Janet Van Dyne.

And there are plenty of rumors for new Avengers…

Carol Danvers is seriously the easiest character to drop into ANY post-Avengers MCU film.

Carol Danvers is seriously the easiest character to drop into ANY post-Avengers MCU film.

MAXIMOFF TWINS!!

MAXIMOFF TWINS!!

(Just saying)

(Just saying)

In conclusion: I am more than ready for Phase II of the MCU. What about you?

Chit Chat: Game of Thrones 3.1

Chit chat is a dialogue between two or more of our contributors. It’s done online 99% of the time but you can imagine us discussing it over coffee. Or vodka, depending on the subject material.

Anika: So, Game of Thrones is back.

Sam: YAY! Since the second season, I went back and read the first three books. I have this insane fear of being spoiled by twitter, so instead I spoiled myself with canon.

Anika: I have still not read any of the books and I watched “live” so I was unspoiled…though I also don’t mind spoilers, generally.

Sam: If anyone spoils the end of this season for you, they should be punched. Metaphorically.

Anika: Hmmmmm. Now I am curious! And, true, the last episodes of Season One were so wonderful because I had no idea what would happen. Good point, you talked me into caring about Spoilers in the case of Game of Thrones. But enough about that, let’s talk the premiere. Readers, the following contains SPOILERS.

Sam: Okay! Things I loved: all of the women. All of them. Even the very small moments we got with Cat and Talisa. I wish there had been some Arya or Brienne, but then my TV may have exploded with awesome.

Anika: The women are the strong ones! Seriously, I have to agree. They are all interesting and the performances are wonderful. I’m still on such a Lena Heady high from last season I clapped like a seal when Cersei appeared on screen.

Cersei Lannister

Sam: And then she stole the scene away from Tyrion, as far as I’m concerned. And she rocked it later on at the dinner scene. Lena Heady does an amazing job of conveying Cersei’s complex, and often conflicting, feelings towards Joffrey.

Anika: I loved the dinner scene. Joffrey was trying so hard to be in control but he is so far outmatched it’s hilarious — even Loras seemed to be on better footing than Joffrey. And Margaery Tyrell was my favorite part of the whole episode. She’s not just here to play the game, she’s here to win it.

Sam: Yeah, and even if she’s doing it for all the wrong reasons (power, her own safety), she’s doing it differently than anyone else seems to have done for a long time. By helping people. I don’t understand why the Lannisters don’t get that. And the Starks are nice, but they’re so wrapped up in honor that they CAN’T help people sometimes. I really really like what the show is doing with Margaery’s character.

Margaery Tyrell

Anika: Exactly. She came off like a Disney Princess (compliment) right down to the “I have other dresses” bit. I love the Lannisters, but I can’t root for them.

Sam: Yeah, I agree in general, though I’m not really a big fan of Tyrion. I know I’m probably the only person on the planet who thinks that way. I think Peter Dinklage is great AS Tyrion, I just don’t like the character very much. Let’s be honest, I’m watching this show to see Dany burn the Lannisters to a crisp, while Arya shanks Joffrey and Sansa ends up as Queen of the North. Ahem.

Anika: I think that would actually be a popular ending. I mean, if Dany doesn’t burn everything to the ground it will be the biggest let down in the history of fantasy. Though, I would not be opposed to Sansa and Shae, who are also my new OTP, going on a murder spree in King’s Landing. Starting with Baelish.

Sam: Haha. Yeah, Petyr Baelish, is… erg. I dunno. I’m interested to see the role Ros plays, since she’s not in the books. And Shae’s roll is different. Also Sansa/Dany is my forever OTP, but I guess Sansa can have a fling with Shae while Dany’s dealing with the Unsullied. I’m okay with that.

Shae and Sansa

Anika: I ship Dany with the throne. But she should have All the Flings. What do we think of the Unsullied as Dany’s army?

Sam: I think Dany needs a good army. Can I spoil a tiny thing from the books? It’s not about the future, just about one of traits of the Unsullied.

Anika: Okay by me.

Sam: In the books, the Unsullied kill a puppy. They’re given a puppy to raise, and they have it long enough to bond with it, and then they’re supposed to kill it. I understand why they changed it to a baby, but I thought it was weird. Killing a puppy is also sad. I guess it’s to higlight the plight of the slaves in Astapor without all the exposition they get in the books. But the image of these young boys carrying around a puppy for a year and then murdering it is kind of terrifying to me, strangely moreso than killing a random baby.

Anika: That’s interesting. As much as she calls herself their mother, the puppy is a better parallel for Dany and her dragons. I was wondering where they even get 8000 random babies to kill, that seemed a little too fantastic to me.

Sam: Yeah, there’s this deep well of hidden population in random places. 8000 people is probably more than the population of Winterfell. My understanding from the books is that these other cities are pretty big, but still.

Anika: The infant mortality rate has to be high in the desert populated by slaves even without baby killing by the army!

Sam: Haha. The logistics of life in Westeros. Speaking of Dany, I was glad to see Selmy show up. Mostly because Jorah annoys me and I’m happy to see him have some competition. It’ll make him more interesting. Hopefully.

Anika: Haha, I had the opposite reaction. I do really like that Selmy has a personal connection to her. But I like Jorah a lot, and his relationship to Dany even more. Of course, part of what I like so much is the sense of impending tragedy I get from them, so…

Sam: I find him a little possessive. But maybe that’s me being jealous of the time he gets to spend with my fictional future wife.

Anika: He’s definitely protective, and maybe that’s possessive. But I love broken characters and broken relationships so I don’t mind it. I mean, I love when Dany talks back to him just as much as I love that she depends on him. If he wasn’t a little possessive and clearly imperfect I would find him boring.

On a related note, I didn’t find Jon Snow boring for almost the first time ever! I have this weird thing where I really WANT to like Jon Snow. But he never seems to do or know anything.

Sam: “You know nothing, Jon Snow.” is basically the truest thing in the entire series. (Ygritte is the best.)

Jon Snow and Ygritte

Anika: Ygritte is great. As you said, such a depth of good female characters!

Sam: I like that part of the social structure of these “barbarians” is that they treat women more equally than just about any other society in Westeros. Imagine if Cersei had been born north of the Wall. Wooboy.

Anika: Okay, that’s a great point but now I am shifting everybody into different societies and it is a super fun game.

Sam: I know, I just started doing it also.

Anika: Everybody play along in comments!

In summary, we each get three likes and three dislikes:

Sam: My three dislikes are

1) Tyrion’s nose. I’m disappointed it’s still there.

2) Davos. Zzzz. They could skip right to the end of his third book plot and we’d only need about three lines of exposition and we’d be better for it.

3) When we spend an entire episode missing two of the big A plots (Arya and Jamie) it drives home that there are too many characters and not enough episodes. Which ties into 2, because we could live without him (I like the actor though, just to be clear, I had the same issue READING Davos’ plot also).

Anika:

1) I agree on Davos but for me it extends to Stannis and Melisandre, too. I just don’t care about them at all.

2) Dany, stop being so naive. Of course the little girl is a demon. AKA ‘set up to introduce new rushing to save Dany from things male character‘.

3) The Robb’s army scene was rushed or truncated, I’m not sure what happened or why it’s Jaime Lannister’s, and therefore Catelyn’s, fault.

Sam: Yeah, I suppose I should clarify that when I say Davos I mean “that entire plot line”, which I really don’t need to see. But yes! And I also totally agree with you on Dany. I’m hoping she eventually gets to smack some people around and, you know, take care of herself. Anyway, Likes!

1) Sansa. For as little as we saw her, I thought he game with Shae was very insightful into her character. That whole bit about the truth being either terrible or boring, and never saying the real thing at first… it says a lot about her and how she’s still alive, despite everything.

2) Margaery. I love what they’re doing with her character, and I have perked up from my somewhat disinterested feelings about her last season, because it’s nice to see someone being, you know, nice to people.

3) Cersei, who stole every scene she was in, even the one with Margaery. It’s great to see a really horrible person be so engaging, and in a way that makes me feel for her. She really would rule all of Westeros if only she’d been born a man, or born as a Wildling.

Anika: Yes to all that! A++

1) Tyrion is not my favorite Lannister but Peter Dinklage‘s performance in the Tywin scene was brilliant, especially the anger at the very end.

2) Sam isn’t dead! Also, yay for Ghost, I miss the wolves.

3) Not gonna lie, I love seeing Dany’s dragons grow and I really really love her dragon tooth/claw jewelry. I adore her style and the way it evolves as she does — the leather pants plus flowy blue tunic was the perfect mixture of soldier and princess. Well done, costumer.

Dany and Jorah

Next week: ARYA!

Q&A # 196: Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.


ANIKA

I want to read the Unauthorized Biography of every superhero I care about and even Hawkeye. Actually, maybe Hawkeye the MOST. It involves the circus.

This is Clint Barton performing in the circus.

And at least one illegitimate child, right?

This is Trowa Barton performing in the circus. His parents are unknown but he is a spy who grew up in a circus. Just saying.


SARA

My answer to this question is completely inspired by a story I am editing for my friend, Mikayla. Thank you Mikayla!

(Also, disclaimer: I read this week’s Q&A as a question posing what literary text should exist inside a comic book universe canon, ie, Wally West reading Harry Potter in the JL Watchtower, you dig?)

One of Mikayla’s favorite books is Fight Club by Chuck Palahinuk and in her absolutely stunning story (available online as soon as we both get our act together and finish editing it /shameless-plug), one of the main characters justifies his love of Fight Club by offering this explanation: “It’s a bible for the fatherless lost boys.”

And that, ladies and gents and ponies, is exactly why I think Fight Club should exist in the Batman universe if only to give Dick Grayson something to hold onto as he’s becoming Robin in his adolescence and as he loses sight of (and regains) Bruce as a father figure in his adult life.

I remember this passage very well from my first time reading this book:

The mechanic says, “If you’re male and you’re Christian and living in America, your father is your model for God. And if you never know your father, if your father bails out or dies or is never at home, what do you believe about God?”

In some cases, this is exactly how Dick came to be the person and superhero he is today. Batman and Bruce Wayne were the two figures in his life that he could live up to and, no matter what sort of bullcrap Bruce (or Dick) spits out, it was always implied that Dick, his first Robin, was the son he never had (until Damian!)


So what about you? Describe a book that really should exist in a favorite comic book universe.

Skipping to Conclusions: Once Upon a Time Graphic Novel

In geekdom, we see a lot of teasers. Sometimes it’s just an image or the name of a creator, other times it’s a trailer or a simple tag line. Whatever it is, it’s meant to get a reaction from you and start a discussion. Inspired by the anticipation and buzz caused by these teasers, we at Fantastic Fangirls present Skipping to Conclusions in which we speculate about the comics, movies, TV shows, or whatever we’re excited about but hasn’t come out yet.

by Anika

Marvel has announced a Once Upon a Time graphic novel. Let me repeat that. Marvel has announced a Once Upon a Time GRAPHIC NOVEL!

Dive into the immersive world of ABC’s “Once Upon a Time” like never before as Marvel Entertainment and Disney-ABC Television Group are proud to announce ONCE UPON A TIME: SHADOW OF THE QUEEN, an all-new original graphic novel hardcover inspired by the popular series. Plotted by series writer and co-producer Dan Thomsen and co-written by Corinna Bechko, this landmark release fits into the official continuity of “Once Upon a Time” and features the lush art of Nimit Malavia, Vasilis Lolos, Mike Del Mundo, Stephanie Hans and Mike Henderson

Okay, there are many obvious reasons why this is exciting for me. I’ve mentioned how important the show is to me and even gone so far as to suggest that Peter Parker and Henry Mills should totally meet up (aside: in that same vein, Miles Morales and Henry Mills should totally be BFF. They can bond over legacies and expectations and learning the world you know is not the only one there is. Someone make this happen). I love pretty much everything involved in this endeavor: fairy tales, comic books, Marvel, Disney, Storybrooke… here are some of the various artists’ work:

Michael Del Mundo

Michael Del Mundo

Nimit Malavia

Nimit Malavia

Stephanie Hans

Stephanie Hans

So that will be beautiful!

And then, here’s the story:

In ONCE UPON A TIME: SHADOW OF THE QUEEN, the Evil Queen has, quite literally, captured the Huntsman’s heart. With the Huntsman a slave, experience the never-before-told tale behind their twisted relationship—and what happens when a good man is forced to do bad. And when Regina cooks up yet another devious plan to capture Snow White the Huntsman comes face-to-face with his past, including an independent spirit in Red Riding Hood that just may match his own. Can these two break free of the forces that bind them and save Snow White?

It’s an Evil Queen story! It’s Hunstman backstory! Including an independent spirit in Red Riding Hood! I cannot contain my glee!

an illustration from Henry's book

an illustration from Henry’s book

But there is one more conclusion I am skipping to. Disney as Marvel’s parent company has been great for the movies and I love the abundance of Spider-Man merchandise alongside Cinderella merchandise in my local mall but the impact on comics hasn’t been as positively reviewed. But this move is exciting for me. This is Disney using Marvel to expand their television audience with comics and maybe, just maybe, their comic book audience with fairy tales. Once Upon a Time is extremely comic-booky. All the complaints (and/or commendations) about it’s wide scope and cast of thousands and non-linear plot and spectrum of grey characters and even the obsession with Daddy Issues are things that comic book fans are used to because comic books, and especially Marvel comic books, are built on them. This is Disney marketing (or at least aiming) comic books to their Princess fans. To the people who buy their dolls and go to their parks and watch their Sunday night family hour show. To moms and little girls. To me and my daughter. And I CANNOT WAIT to buy it. Where do I preorder?

Q&A # 195: What’s your favorite horror film?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What’s your favorite horror film?


ANIKA

Jennifer’s Body is by far my favorite film that fits squarely in the horror genre. It was marketed (horribly) as a slasher flick featuring a sexy girl as the monster AND the prey and most people decided they could download pictures of Megan Fox for free and get the same experience. It was actually the marriage of Heathers and The Craft I never knew I needed in my life.

But I did.


MARIE

I tend to go for horror movies that are either a satire or a deconstruction of the genre- it also helps if it’s clever and funny as well. That’s why Shaun of the Dead, Cabin in the Woods , and Warm Bodies come to mind.


SAM

Hellraiser! Well, Hellraiser 3, but that’s mainly for Terry Farrell and her relationship with a young Paula Marshall. Hellrasier 3 is actually the first movie I saw from that series, probably late one night on HBO when I was supposed to be sleeping. But I went back and watched the first two, and read The Hellbound Heart (the novela the movies were based in). I came to really like the entire Hellraiser mythos, and I regularly rewatch the first four movies (four has a young Adam Scott in basically his first movie role, not even kidding).

And, I’ll admit with a bit of chagrin, there’s a pretty robust Hellraiser comic book catalogue as well. I found out when I started reading Hellraiser: The Dark Watch a couple of months ago, and realized that I had no idea what was going on, because so much had happened that I hadn’t read. New project!

I’m not sure what it is about the Hellraiser series that I like so much. It has basically the coolest horror villain from that era, the golden age of very comic-booky horror movie villains lile Jason and Freddy Krueger. I mean. Pinhead, guys. Pinhead is awesome. And Hellraiser 3 also made him multifaceted, which is probably another reason I like it. Also the cenobites are freaking terrifying and cool, and the entire mythology of Hell and the puzzle boxes is so richly detailed that it’s hard not to engage with it.

The movies can be hit or miss, especially the later ones, but there is definitely no pure horror (re: non-crossover) movie that I enjoy more than any of the first four Hellraisers.


So what about you? What’s your favorite horror film?

Q&A # 193: What is your favorite non-superhero comics genre?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What is your favorite non-superhero comics genre?


ANIKA

I’m not sure “comics based on Star Trek” counts as a genre and I’m not sure the crews of the Enterprises don’t count as “superheroes” but I am sure that Star Trek comics are why I read comics.

a photo of the STAR TREK comic

The first ever comic books I read were Tintin and various graphic novel classics like David Copperfield when I was nine, in a foreign country, and they were the only available books in English. But the first ever comic book I bought was Scotty’s True Love, an original series Star Trek annual about, well, Scotty’s true love. They met as kids, got together as teens, split up as adults, and eventually married, but separated before her death. The sci-fi part of the story was that it was told backwards, starting with Scotty crying over his scotch and her locket in his quarters and ending with wee Glynnis holding the locket and proclaiming her undying love for the boy she’d just met to the wind.

It’s cute. More importantly, it convinced me to read more. There was one Star Trek: The Next Generation comic that I memorized and turned into a monologue that I performed for auditions (I also did this with Star Trek novels; I am a Serious Trekkie). And when I noticed that the author, Peter David, also wrote my brother’s X-Men comics, I started reading those, too.

a scan of Star Trek: Ongoing 18 featuring Spock and Uhura kissing

Various cancelled television series have lived on in comics. Various not-yet-cancelled television series and film series have had successful tie-in comics. And if you’ve ever wondered whether or not they bring in new readers I’m here to tell you: yes.


CAROLINE

Many mysteries and detective stories, like superhero comics, have roots in early twentieth century pulp fiction. So it makes sense that comics can be a great medium for crime stories. Stumptown by Greg Rucka and Matthew Southworth, JINX by Brian Michael Bendis, Scalped by Jason Aaron and R.M. Guera, and the whole Criminal franchise by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips are just a few of the great crime comics out there.


MARIE


The genres that I tend to gravitate towards usually have strong fantasy elements. The first series that comes to mind is Bill Willigham’s Fables. I think I might have touched on Fables in a different Q & A session, but it really is a series that is worth mentioning again. Plus, I’ve always been a sucker for fairy tales, so any medium that can tap those veins to create broader and richer worlds from them gets a star in my book!

Also, the art is just gorgeous.

Other than that, I also like experimental work like Jamie Hewlett and Alan Martin’s Tank Girl.Especially if the backdrop takes place in outer space.

Fun fact: You may know Jamie Hewlett as the artist behind the The Gorillaz.

So what about you? What is your favorite non-superhero comics genre?

Q&A #192: What canceled television series do you miss most?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments.

What canceled television series do you miss most?


ANIKA

#SWAG

I know what you’re thinking. Law and Order was on for twenty years. Compared to House (8 seasons) or Fringe (4 1/2 seasons) or Firefly (14 episodes) or Wonderland (8 episodes; only 2 aired)…does it really count as a “canceled” series? But I honestly miss it daily. And specifically this team led by Thomas Wayne and the wonder that was Jack McCoy as DA.

The real issue (as I’ve mentioned) is that it didn’t have a series finale. It hurts me. But at least the series didn’t end on a cliffhanger, like Hellcats which I will NEVER GET OVER –

#crying forever

(And speaking of Aly Michalka, I also miss Phil of the Future)

aka Doctor Who Junior

– or Alien Nation.

I was the same age as Emily Francisco and I completely identified with her. I had a crush on her bad boy big brother. I obsessively shipped Matt and Cathy. I loved this show. I was thirteen years old and I wanted it to be real life.

I watched the post-series TV movies and I read the books (Passing Fancy is my favorite)…I got more closure here than I did with Law and Order. But when I suggested this question for Q&A, Alien Nation was why.


CAROLINE

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is not a show that I really expected to enjoy. I’m a huge fan of the original Terminator movie, but increasingly less so of the sequels. The first film is an elegant little time travel paradox (it might not seem that way because of all the explosions, but underneath it really is), and the more you try to add to that, the more you risk wrecking the whole thing. So I didn’t think the franchise was a great candidate for a TV show.

TSCC proved me wrong though. Partly, it did so through an amazing cast — Lena Headey before Game of Thrones, Summer Glau and Thomas Dekker and Brian Austin “When did he get that hot?” Green as her improvised family unit. Antagonists included Richard T. Jones, the super-creepy Garrett Dillahunt and Shirley Manson (?!!). What I enjoyed most about this show, though, were the week-to-week stories. The ongoing story arc of each season was interesting enough, but in a fascinating way, these characters who were so determined to fulfill their mission and ignore the world around them kept getting pulled into the world of people around them. The show never forgot that these other lives were just as real and important as the intrigues surrounding the heroes.

This show was cancelled way before its time, and it also happens to have one of the best cliffhanger endings I’ve ever seen. So much potential, so many stories we’ll never see. I miss this show!


GABBY

Sigh. Veronica Mars, how I love your quick-witted, bashful and seriously ass-kicking self.

I miss this show so much, especially since it did not get the ending it deserved. I remember reading somewhere that the creator had [SPOILER] purposefully ended the show as a season finale, with Veronica walking away in the rain (to this amazing song), so that it would sway the network in giving them an additional season.

Needless to say that never happened, and we never got closure about anything. What happened to Keith, Veronica’s dad? Did he get elected as sheriff, or did he get locked up for tampering with evidence? Who did the marshmallow herself end up with, Piz or Logan? What about Wallace? His last scene wasn’t worthy of the epic goodbye between friends that shouldv’e been.

Ultimately, I’m glad that this show existed. It’s the first show that made me love a bad boy (seriously, I pick Angel over Spike any day – actually, I just pick neither), that presented a loving and hilarious father-daughter duo and a that had a murder storyline that kept me guessing up until the very last scene (Lilly Kane was amazing, wasn’t she?).

I’m due for a re-watch.

(Oh, and in case you’d like to see what a fourth season would have looked like, check these out).


JESSICA

I have mixed feelings when it comes to canceled television shows–on the one hand, it’s annoying (and sometimes heartbreaking) to be deprived of a show that you have become really invested in, but on the other, if a good show ends up running for only one or two seasons, those seasons are usually pretty damn near perfect. After all, only the good die young. Sometimes it’s easier for me to think back wistfully of the one and only really terrific season of a show than to watch a series I love die a slow, painful, hokey, jumping the shark death (thinking about seasons eight and nine of The X-Files still stings).

With this in mind, some canceled television shows I love, like Freaks and Geeks and Firefly, belong in the first category of single breathtaking seasons. I was devastated to see them go, but these are two shows where every episode is great. There are no throw-aways, no “WHY DID THEY DO THAT”s. Their short runs are bittersweet, but beautiful.

Still, this doesn’t mean that some shows aren’t brutally murdered in the prime of their lives, hacked off of the air as fans release blood curdling screams of horror. In this category fall shows like Arrested Development (although I do have high hopes for the Netflix continuation later this year), Pushing Daises, Wonderfalls, and Dead Like Me (if you are a fan and haven’t already, don’t watch the made-for-television movie wrap-up. It’s painful.). These are shows that keep me wondering what happened to their quirky characters, and I will probably never get over any of them being cancelled. Topping this list might be the show Rome, the HBO drama that recreated Ancient Rome in an engaging and original way. I’m still sick over that one. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. I mean, technically I know what happens, because, you know, history, but still. I need to see it on HBO with scantily clad men running around engaging in political intrigue.


MARIE

I wouldn’t necessarily describe myself as a morbid person, but I definitely have a thing for shows that put a quirky spin on death. That’s why I feel great shows like Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies did not deserve to be buried (see what I did there?) after only two seasons.

Yes, I know that they continued in some capacity with a direct-to-DVD film and a mini-series, but still… there was just so much potential!


SAM

I want to say Doctor Who, because I really wish that the Cartmel Plan had happened and Ace had become a Time Lord. But it’s a good time to be a Whovian, so I’m not going to whine about what could have been, when we’ve got a lot of awesome things that are still happening.

I loved The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Pushing Daisies, and Dead Like Me, which have been mentioned. I mourn the end of my favorite soap, All My Children (coming back soon in a new format!). But a show that still makes me sad everytime I see it scroll by on Netflix is Earth 2. Oh, Earth 2, you were ahead of your time.

It was Firefly meets the New Caprica arc from Battlestar Galactica. It had a surprisingly deep internal mythology, and a great ragtag cast of characters that built to a pretty strong ensemble led by a female character (pre-dating Star Trek: Voyager by a few months).

Earth-2 brought a lot to the table, from strong female characters, to crazy conspiracies, to cool aliens, it ticked off a lot of my boxes for what I look for in a science fiction show. It’s currently streaming on Netflix (hint hint).


SARA

So, my first answer was the same as Gabby’s. But, she did such a great job describing all my FEELS, I’ll leave it there. Thank you, Gabby. You spoke for all us Martians!

I guess the show I would say that I miss the most is Justice League Unlimited.

Can you look upon all these heros and not flail? I think not. Epic. Even the title sequence was epic. Chills down my spine.

What. A. Show. Funny, smart, heartbreaking. It was not just a cartoon. It was not just for children. It was not just anything but an amazing show.

Baby Justice Leaguers are offended at the implication that their show is for children.

It could have gone on forever, but the way it ended could not have been any more perfect. For me, JLU was an extension of my love of Batman: The Animated Series and of Batman Beyond. Bruce Timm is flaw free in my eyes. To have the most epic animated series in the history of DC end in a way that brought my childhood full circle? I cried. Cried a bunch and, when I rehydrated, cried some more. To see Bruce and Terry connected like that and all because of The Wall? Phenomenal doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Ugh. The Wall. She is so kickass!

(I’m being deliberately vague because I do not want to spoil those of you who have not watched this series and will obviously want to after reading my blurb about it…uh. Right.)

Also, I dare you to find a more terrifying villain than Joker in JLU. Freaking nuts doesn’t say enough.

So, as much as I would welcome (read: jump up and down screaming like a banshee) more JLU, it had the best send-off I could ever imagine a beloved show getting.


So what about you? What canceled television series do you miss most?

4th Annual Fantastic Comic Book Awards

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments. But this week we bring you: the winners of the Fourth Annual Fantastic Comic Book Awards!


The crowd of well dressed, or at least dressed-up, superheroes stirs as the stage lights burst on and the orchestra starts to play. Most crane their necks for the first glimpse of tonight’s famous, and famously polarizing, host, Deadpool. But the Merc with the Mouth is missing; an elder gentleman calmly walks to the middle of the stage and opens his hands to the audience.

“Hello.” The spotlight shines on Alfred Pennyworth, dressed in a well-pressed if slightly old fashioned tuxedo. “Welcome to the Got Milk Theatre and the fourth annual Fantastic Fangirl Awards.”

an image of Alfred, blue bowtie, in front of a piano

Quiet murmurs and shuffling seats meet his words, but finally the applause swells. “I know the papers, or whatever it is they have in place of papers these days… Twitter birds and all that… You were expecting a Mister Dead Pool as host.” Half the audience answer with affirmative nods and whistles and the other half blush and giggle as they update their friends and followers on the no show and scan the hashtags for information and snark. “Well, as I understand it Mister Pool was called away at the last minute. For an emergency of some kind — to be frank I am somewhat entirely surprised you invited a ‘super hero’ to host your gala to begin with. Schedules are so difficult.”

Maybe ten percent of the crowd believed there was an actual emergency that only Deadpool, of all people, could handle. Most of the rest were placing bets on inappropriate or incendiary humor or behavior. The last few were swooning over Alfred’s accent.

“I apologize to all of Mister Pool’s fans and I will endeavor to fill his shoes with aplomb.” The audience applauded in good nature. “Thank you. Now, please join me in welcoming our first presenter of the evening, the lovely Miss Jubilation Lee.”

Best Character in Supporting Role, Male

Jubilee takes to the stage, wearing an elegant but modernly-cut yellow gown and black combat boots. She points to the audience and winks, then clears her throat. “In a world full of heroes, who can the best -” She cuts off, wrinkles her nose at the teleprompter, and shakes her head. “Listen, the big guys – and ladies – aren’t anything without backup, am I right? And sometimes the best backup is an even bigger guy.”

She clears her throat. “This year, the best male in a supporting role is the biggest guy I know… Bruce Banner of the Avengers.”

Bruce shuffles onto the stage. His suit is well-made but hangs a little too loose on his body and, although his dark hair has been carefully styled at some point, the dark curls have started to come loose and go wild. As Bruce speaks, he touches his hair, and it becomes increasingly disheveled.

He looks down at the statue. “Best supporting character,” he says, then repeats, “Best supporting. That’s something. Mixed feelings, I have to say. That is, I’ve been a title character since before — no offense to anybody here, but before a lot of you were created. A couple movies, my own TV show. But, well, who I’m I kidding, right?” With an uneasy laugh, Bruce touches his collar. “That was never really about me. It was always the other guy. What’s changed over the past year is that people are starting to notice me. Bruce Banner. And yes, to think about me in a supporting role. And I don’t mind that because ‘supporting’ means you’re part of a team. Being part of a team means you’re included and people want you around and — Dammit, I promised I wouldn’t do this.” He starts to sniffle andubs at his eye with a sleeve. “Joss deserves a lot of the credit of course, but please let’s not forget what Kelly Sue has done at ‘Avengers Assemble’ and Tony, no matter how much we’re at each other’s throats, all the good people at SHIELD, and Betty, I know things have been complicated but…”

Bruce seems unable to go on for a moment, and the orchestra picks this inopportune time to begin an all-too-familiar lilting piano theme.

“Don’t–” Bruce’s head jerks up. “Do – not – play – me – off.” The music ceases abruptly. “Thank you. That would have made me angry, and you wouldn’t like me –” A murmur of discontent runs through the audience, and Bruce sighs. “That was a joke. I’m bad at jokes. Maybe I should –”

A voice comes from the audience. “Hey, big guy! You done good.”

A smile lights up Bruce’s face. “Thanks, Tony! I’m just. . .I’m gonna get off stage now. Please don’t play that music? Thanks. But I’m serious. Don’t play that music.”

The orchestra obligingly goes for the theme from Avengers instead as Bruce goes back to join Tony in the audience.

Alfred returns to center stage muttering “…something about the name.” He stops at the microphone stage right. “I’m told our second presenter swept his category last year. Ladies and gentlemen, the enigmatic Shatter Star.”

Best Character in a Supporting Role, Female

After his name is called, Shatterstar comes out onto the stage. He walks briskly to the podium, then nods to the crowd before tugging at the waist of his white tuxedo jacket to straighten it, even though it looked fine. “Yes, hello and it’s an honor to be here to present this year’s award for best female in a supporting role.” He’s clearly reading off the teleprompter, but he’s not nervous about it, more matter-of-fact.

“This year, there is a tie.” He pauses as the audience murmurs. “These two women are not as different as you may think upon first glance. Each plays an important part in the lives of those around her, even from outside of the spotlight. I am… happy to present this award to Helena Wayne, and Leah Helmaid.”

Shatterstar starts to clap and backs away from the microphone as Helena Wayne takes to the stage. She’s wearing a sleeveless, deep purple gown, with a high collar. There are a few whistles from the audience, and she rolls her eyes.

The award handler approaches her and gives her two statuettes. He hefts one as she steps up to the mic. “They told me Leah couldn’t be here tonight – something about a journey and mystery – so I’m going to take both of these and give one to her at the after party.” She grins. “Probably.”

There’s some chuckling from the audience. “I’ll keep this short, I promise. I’d like to thank my dad and mom, who taught me everything I know and died saving my planet.” The camera cuts to Bruce Wayne, who mouths different Earth, as Damian Wayne sits next to him, scowling. “And I’d like to thank my partner in crime fighting, my best friend, the other half of my story, Kara – uh, Karen Starr.” Now a reaction shot of Power Girl, wearing a low cut, elegant white gown and a large red ruby necklace set in the center of her plunging neckline. She blows a kiss towards the stage.

Helena shakes her head, but she’s smiling. “Thanks again, everyone. It’s been a hard few years, stuck on a planet that’s not quite home. But knowing you’re pulling for me – for us – makes it a little easier to face the day. Have a great night!” She turns and walks off the stage.

Alfred tries to suppress it but his pride in the Wayne family, in any universe, is evident across his beaming face. “Well done. Now,” he turned to the audience, “We move on to the leads. Our next presenter is, pardon me for saying, unsinkable –” The assembled Batfamily groan but Alfred looks quite pleased with his cleverness. “Miss Stephanie Brown.”

Best Character in a Leading Role, Male

Stephanie gets to the microphone and pauses. She gasps, “Oh wow. You guys. It’s just– it’s really, really great to see everyone. I miss you all so much.” She takes a deep breath. “I should probably stick to the teleprompter, huh?” Steph smiles, “Okie dokie.”

“A leading man is often thought of as suave, debonair, and charming. This year’s winner isn’t really any of those things. He is clumsy, impulsive, and snarky. But he is also honest, courageous, and despite his best efforts, a true hero. The award for best male in a leading role goes to Clint Barton. Yay Hawkguy!!”

Clint slowly gets up from his seat. He looks mildly uncomfortable, but after Kate Bishop shoves him into the aisle he makes for the stage. He’s wearing a crumpled suit and his now-signature purple Converse All Stars. He takes the steps two at a time and gives Steph a big hug before he takes the award. No less than three women in the audience facepalm.

“She’s got great fashion sense. Can’t go wrong with purple.”
Steph pushes in and towards the mic. “Eggplant.” No less than three Robins facepalm. The award handler pulls gently on her elbow as the audience laughs.

Clint grins. “If you’re looking for a new place to hang out, I can always use another sidekick.” An arrow whizzes past his head. “What? I said sidekick, Kate. Geez.”

“Uh, anyway.” He rubs the back of his neck and leans into the mic. “Honestly, I didn’t expect to win any awards for what I do. I get into more trouble than I can fix. My superpowers are being in the wrong place at the right time, and having good backup. So I’d like to thank that back up. I wouldn’t be where I am without the Avengers, after -” Another arrow whizzes by his head, but he ignores it. “All. My creative team, led by Fraction. And, of course, the best Hawkeye I know, Kate Bishop. Luckily she’s too drunk to shoot straight tonight.”

Clint waves to the crowd, then back to the balcony section. “Nah, I’m kidding. Kate’s a good shot even drunk. Thanks again, everyone.”

Alfred’s expression is disapproving but he claps politely as Clint exits. “And now another youngster, please welcome Master Miles Morales.”

Best Character in a Leading Role, Female

Miles comes out onto the stage, looking very sharp, but mildly uncomfortable, in his well-cut tuxedo. He looks out at the crowd, stands up straight, then leans into the mic. “Tonight’s winner would probably tell you that there should be just one category for best lead, because there’s no real reason to separate the men and the women.” Miles’ eyes go a little wide. “Really?”

The audience titters as he goes off script, but he recovers quickly. He’s suddenly worried about meeting the award winner, though. “Uh, maybe I should just skip right to the end?”

Clint sticks his head in from offstage. “Good call, kid.”

“This is going well.” The audience claps supportively. “Before I get hooked off of stage, tonight’s winner for best lead, female, is the one and only Ms. Carol Danvers.”

Carol is forced on stage by a Jessica on either side. She is wearing Prada, because obviously, and her hair is twisted on top of her head. She accepts the award from Miles with what she thinks is a comforting smile, he musters a grin and takes two steps back.

“So that’s something.” Carol fidgets with her hair absently. “Well, okay, first of all Spider-kid is wrong.” Miles pulls at his collar. “I mean, yeah, everything being equal, leads are leads and that’s what we, all, over at Captain Marvel HQ are out here proving — so thanks for noticing Spider-kid and all the readers of Fan Fan Girl.” She grins and waggles her award. “But, look, let’s celebrate women!”

Carol raises her award over her head. “Tracy, Helen, Jess, Monica, Chewie, Kelly Sue, Emma, Wendy, Kit… Mom, other Jess, Pepper who made me do my hair like this, Natasha, you know we all envy your movie career, Anya, I miss you girl… and my boys, okay, you too. Steve and Peter and Dexter and Stephen and Filipe and Frank and Jamie and yeah you all know who you are.”

The orchestra starts playing Black Sabbath. Carol rolls her eyes. “Oh, God, how much did that cost?” She winks at Miles. “I take it back, kid, I absolutely want to compete with the guys. So I can beat Tony Stark.”

A voice is heard from off stage. “He wasn’t even–”

“And Clint Barton.” She waves to the audience. “Thanks everybody.”

The audience applaud as Alfred returns to center stage.

“Well, now, this is going swimmingly. Before I announce our last award I want to take a moment to congratulate all our nominees, and as there were a significant amount of write-in votes — everyone in this theatre is a winner. And on behalf of the Fantastic Fangirls, I would also like to thank the readers for participating.” The applause swells.

“Now, the award for Best Ensemble goes to: the Avengers.”

Best Ensemble

The cast of Avengers Assemble fills the stage. Steve Rogers accepts the award from Alfred while Tony Stark, in a new David August suit, makes signs of Victory with his fingers. Carol reappears and drags a half-hiding half-glaring Jess Drew up on stage with her. Clint waves. Natasha cocks her head in calm acceptance. There is a shuffle around the microphone, but finally Steve takes the lead.

“Thank you.” The crowd settles. “If every Avenger joined us on stage it would fall into the basement.” The camera panned to the audience, some laughing quietly, others looking at their watches. Damian Wayne caught the camera’s gaze and mouthed ‘Sounds good’ with a mischievous sneer. “There are, of course, a cast of thousands behind us–”

Tony put his hand over the mic. “And Steve here would name them all given the chance.” His voice was projected across the room with the aid of Stark Tech. “Suffice it to say, we are grateful.”

“Tony, I think we should at least acknowledge–”

“Sure.” Tony salutes to the crowd. “He’s acknowledged.”

Steve purses his lips. “Well, how about–”

“Yes.”

“Absolutely.”

“And–”

“Him, too.”

“No–”

“Oh, right.” He blows kisses. “Her.”

Clint cuts in. “Maybe someone else should give the speech.” Steve nods and attempts to step in front of Tony, but Tony side steps and is now hovering slightly above the stage.

“Well, we know what you would say.” Tony points to Carol who rolls her eyes again. “And this one.” His eyes linger over Jessica Drew but she ducks behind Clint. Tony takes a second to mentally dismiss everyone else on the stage. “Maybe Cap’s best after a– Wait, where’s Bruce? He should get a chance to finish and everyone likes a–” Natasha whispers into Tony’s shoulder. “Oh, well, that’s no reason to hide. Come on, big guy, the stage is yours.”

The audience’s eyes follow Tony’s up to the scaffolding and the Hulk who sits watching the stage. Everything is quiet a split second before the assembled Avengers scatter as Hulk jumps down onto the stage.

“Hulk thank—” His next words are drowned out by the cracking of the stage as it falls into the basement of the theatre.

“Yes!” cries Damian.

“Well… my.” Alfred shakes his head and gathers as much dignity as he can being cradled in Captain Marvel’s arms. “Thank you, Miss. And thank you, all, for watching. Good evening.”


This post is a collaboration between four Fantastic Fangirls — and everyone who participated in the Fantastic Comic Book Awards. Thank you all!