Fantastic Fangirls Podcast 2.6: Summer Movie Preview

On our newest podcast, Sam, Sara and Gabby make Much Ado about a lot of movies that have them Catching Fire and turning Upside Down with excitement as. . .

Okay, I can’t keep this up. Have a picture of the new Superman and Lois Lane:

. . .and enjoy the podcast!

Then come to the comments and tell us what movies you’re most excited to see.

(PS, they’re not all coming out in the summer but I’d already named the file before I realized that.)

Whedonverse comics roundup: Spike

by Gabby

Let’s start this off by being honest.

I don’t particularly like Spike. I think he was at his best in season 2 of Buffy. Spike and Drusilla, an evil duo taking pleasure in other people’s misery. I loved the intricate foursome they formed with Angelus and Darla, combining their pasts into something semi-incestuous. After that, I feel like Spike was used as bait; something to draw in viewers, because people loooove Spike. He never really found his place after that, for me. Always hanging around the edges of the Scooby gang, with an inexplicable infatuation for the Slayer (as she leads him on, then drops him ad vitam eternam), not really serving any kind of purpose. I think the goal was to give him a purpose, being the Hero that destroyed the Hellmouth at the series’ conclusion. But it felt a little cheap, tacked on. Overall, I guess he just fits the mold of my Buffyverse experience, though I’m sure it wouldn’t be the same if he weren’t there.

This mini-series kind of makes me think I was onto something.

In APART OF ME, part three (in Buffy, S9), Spike makes a decision.

Spike: (…) You can take some time to figure out what you need, Buffy. Me being here doesn’t help.
Buffy: Don’t tell me what I need.
Spike: Withdrawn. But you tell me. How do you imagine I felt when you said you were thinking of us running off together? (Silence) Come with me now. You’re right. There’s no one here for you. What does this town have to offer? (…) I don’t want to go back. To lurking around the edge of your life. Watching from this far above it all till you’re desperate for someone you can count on. (…) You know what. Forget it, Slayer. And I don’t mean to sound snappish. I love you. You know this. But I can’t get jerked around no more. I’m not even saying I blame you. I can never tell for sure where your heart’s at, so I’m not gonna stand here under a romantic, albeit deadly, sunset lecturing you. I believe in you, Buffy. And I know you’ll do right. That’s how I have your back.

Then he jets off into said deadly sunset on his ship of bugs. This is where his solo arc kicks off for five issues, a journey of self-re-discovery. Who is Spike, without Buffy? Let’s find out.

A DARK PLACE, parts 1 to 5

This starts with Spike in his bug ship wanting to go to the dark side of the mood to brood. I don’t really understand where the ship, or the bugs, come from. According to a wiki (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Spike’s_ship), it’s some sort of escape pod that Wolfram&Hart planned to use when Twilight/Angel created a new world. Regardless, what I do know is that the bugs, lead by Sebastian, are hilarious and talk like robots infected by proper english. Witness:

Basically, the bugs want to make Spike feel better, because if he keeps brooding, he won’t be fit to be their master any longer. They build him a fake beach (based on a picture taken from one of Buffy’s magazines, which Sebastian calls “periodicals”), hoping that the sun will lift his dark mood. It seems to work, at first, but Spike gets a little angry; why find comfort in something that’s fake?

At this moment, a giant frog and some demons take over the ship, pirate-style. Apparently, they need a ship because they were stranded on the moon following the destruction of the Seed. With the bug ship in their possession, they wish to make Spike walk the plank and take control of the navigation. Direction: Sunnydale. They hope they will find shards of the Seed, shards that may contain remnants of magic. Hopefully it will garner enough magic to send them back “home”.

Spike, however emotionally broken, is still very smart, so he offers to be their guide through the tunnels of the hellmouth. However, he hadn’t planned on the feelings that the place brought to him…

Sunnydale is, to Spike, the closest thing he’s had to a home, though he’s not really ready to admit that to himself.

For me, it’s not really the “place” that makes a home. It’s the people that make it up. From the above panel, I can gather that Spike is starting to feel the same way. For better or worse, Spike created long lasting connections to many people in Sunnydale that had nothing to do with the relationships he had with Dru, Darla or Angel. He lived with Giles, he became a brother/father figure to Dawn, he loved Buffy… You can’t just shed those things. It’s part of his identity, now.

When they finally get to the Seed Chamber, the demons feel Spike cheated them; there’s nothing there. In fact, there is something there, or rather, someone. Morgan, who, as it turns out, is a succubus, also wants her share of the shards to go home. I think we’ve got a recurring theme here… After beating up the demons that stand in their way, both Morgan and Spike set off on their quest to find a home; a metaphorical one for Spike, but for Morgan, it takes the shape of another Hellmouth.

Before they can set off, though, they get interrupted by Nash and Pearl, the recurring villains in Angel & Faith. Here, we learn that Spike and the twins know each other; Spike “saved” Pearl from a Black Widower demon in Rome in 1953. The haven’t seen each other since, and seeing her, completely different from that cowering girl-demon he saved years ago, is a catalyst for Spike to think about how he’s changed.

Later, aboard the ship, he’ll tell Morgan that “there was something very direct about the person [he] used to be. At least [he] knew what he wanted most of the time”. Does he want that again? Is he regretting getting a soul, and all these mixed feelings that came with it? I don’t think he does. These lines come off without the nostalgia that one would expect. It’s like he’s looking through an old yearbook, completely disconnected from the person he was. Essentially, he knows he has another purpose, but he can’t quite put his finger on it yet…

But how did they get on the ship in the first place? Spike knocked the twins out with timing (as they were lunging at him all super-charged, they crashed in a wall), and the bugs grabbed Morgan as they all went into the ship. Morgan asked them to set the course for Easter Island, another hellmouth. At this point, the bugs are worried, though; they don’t know this succubus. Maybe she’ll put Spike under her charm? Maybe she has a shard and wants to open the hellmouth? But Spike ignores this and decides to trust her. As they talk, he learns that she used to be a “courtesan demon”. These demons were women that used to hang around and advise ancient rulers. Soon, though, the conversation comes back to the shards; she needs them. Spike tells her that Buffy asked him to shoot the shards into the sun, to obliterate them. So, he asks her, what’s the purpose of going to a Hellmouth without a key to open it? She still wants to go, so the bugs, listening in, decide that Spike is “under her spell” (ha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Wzo2dlIC8) and promise each other that “steps will be taken”.

When they get to the island, there’s a slight shift that happens with Morgan, a shift that mirrors what Spike has been going through.

Sensing that Spike is a powerful man, she wants to become his courtesan demon.


Once he realizes that he’s more talking to Buffy than he is Morgan, he reconsiders. Maybe it would be different with Morgan? Maybe she really could give him a purpose, where he would be the leader and she the follower. I’m thinking that her plan does appeal to his former self, the one that would do anything for action, excitement, and, let’s be honest, a shag. But when they start kissing, he sees the picture of the fake beach from the magazine laying on the ground, and he pushes her away.

This is an important moment for Spike. He realizes that he can’t just “substitute” Buffy. Maybe for the first time, he’s admitting to himself that everything that happened with her defines a bit of himself. If he is to reclaim, or redefine, that bit, he needs to heal by himself, without the help of a succubus.

Morgan is furious; who dares reject her? She changes her mind and decides to go home by herself. Spike tries to reason with her again but, a little too late, he realizes that she already has a shard of the seed. Fighting ensues; the bugs try to capture Morgan with a net to help, but it doesn’t do much good. she crashes out of the ship, lands on the island and vomits up the shard, ready to “crack open” the hellmouth.

In the final issue, Morgan tries to open the Hellmouth by awakening the Easter Island statues; problem is, they don’t answer to her, or anyone. Spike joins her in an attempt to fight them off, but it’s ultimately the bug ship that saves the day. At first, they use the ship’s guns in a scene that is reminiscent of Captain Adama in his Battlestar Galactica (or maybe they were Star Trek references? I wouldn’t know about those). Since that effort isn’t enough, Sebastian commands the bugs to abandon ship and he decides to crash it in the giant statues in a grand gesture of self-sacrifice.

With the ship destroyed and their leader dead, the bugs decide to stay on the island and Morgan, after trying and miserably failing one last time to seduce Spike, leaves in a flap of wings.

After this arc, Spike is effectively unburdened of anything that ties him to his past. He has fled from Buffy, he is no longer the captain of a spaceship, he has no other girl. It’s him, alone, on an island. Yet, the first thing he says when this realization sinks in, is: “I wouldn’t say no to a familiar face”. We know this thought isn’t fake, because it’s devoid of an exterior influence. And it’s here that we understand who Spike really is, without Buffy. He’s a social being. He needs others’ needs to define his life. What he had to discover on this journey was that the “others” don’t have to be “Buffy”. That’s why he’ll take a little detour before returning to San Francisco; we’ll see him next month in Angel&Faith.

What did you all think about Spike: A Dark Place? Do you like that Dark Horse is publishing side stories with specific characters? Are you angry that I haven’t used the term “Spuffy” in my article? Let me know in the comments.

All-New X-Men #5: WE HAVE FEELS

Ali and Caroline really like Jean Grey. Like, really really. So when they read the latest issue of Brian Michael Bendis and Stuart Immonen’s All-New X-Men they had, what’s called in internet parlance, ALL OF THE FEELS. And now the ladies will share their FEELS with you.


Let’s drive in with the big stuff!

ALI
Oh Jean! I just… I miss this lady so much. I mean look at all that awesome. She’s such a rich and fantastic character, and in a double page spread BOOM Immonen captures all of that. And all of my feels. ALL OF MY FEELS.

CAROLINE
First of all– just for the record and may we never speak of it again — I object on principle to the word “feels.” “Feelings” only has three more letters, it’s an actual English-language noun, and (unlike “feels”) it doesn’t sound like a medical condition you could get from drinking contaminated water.

However,, if anything was going to reduce me to a giggling squealing fangirl running around the Internet talking about my “feels,” I have to say — this Stuart Immonen page would be it. Every single one of those images speaks to a significant moment in Jean Grey’s history. Jean is an iconic character who has been referenced plenty of times over the last decade, but it usually boils down to a few big moments. Usually, she’s dying. Seeing a creative team display such affection for the character and awareness of her history is a great sign for the new era of X-Men.

ALI
When it comes to the X-Men, I have absolutely no problem talking like a LOLcat.

ALI
I just really loved this bit is all.

CAROLINE
This series of panels illustrates why Bendis and Immonen are one of my favorite writer/artist team-ups in comics. I like a lot of Bendis’s work, but pairing his words up with Immonen’s art creates some kind of quantum leap in my (oh, okay, I’ll say it, shut up) feels. I think it’s because Immonen is such a master of visual “acting” — through gesture or, like here, facial expression, that it complements Bendis’s character-focused work perfectly.


And there’s the whole Jean and Logan thing…

ALI
This is such a brilliant little moment. Six lines of dialog and Bendis freaking nails the whole Jean/Logan dynamic. These two! I can’t even.

But let’s all remember, folks. This is 16-year-old Jean. SIX. TEEN.

CAROLINE
OK, look, I’m of two minds about this. On the one hand, I think, “What a brilliant way to bring Jean into current continuity without making it all about whether she screws Wolverine. Make her too young to be his love interest!” And then my other mind is like, “Wait, how young is she? I mean maybe Bobby is sixteen but I always thought Jean and Scott were older, can’t Jean and Logan make out just a little???”


And there’s then the whole Scott and Logan thing…

ALI
Past Scott breaks my heart. This poor kid. Everybody hates him. And Logan wants to kill him. Which is pretty much the usual for Logan, Past Scott just doesn’t know that yet.

CAROLINE
Wait, Logan wants to kill him? Is that what, “When I think about all the times I was close to you” means? Because that would maybe not be my interpretation. Maybe we should just move on.

ALI
Yeah, in the very next panel (not pictured) Logan says he could just pop a claw in Past Scott’s head right now and fix everything. It’s kinda scary actually.


Meanwhile, this is what present Scott is up to…

ALI
Um… seriously, Scott? That’s what you’re calling your little movement? Seriously. Seriously. *facepalm*

CAROLINE
OK, I haven’t totally been top of all the X-Men stuff but didn’t Scott kill Xavier? Well, maybe Magneto insisted.


Professor K

ALI
Fuck. Yeah. Kitty Pryde.

CAROLINE
Dammit, I do not have “feels” but. . .okay, when I realized Kitty Pryde was going to be babysitting the time traveling teen X-Men, I literally did a seal clap. KITTY! Now all we need is Kitty’s BFF Rachel Summers-Grey, who is Scott and Jean’s kid from the future only, if I’m not mistaken, is now significantly older than Scott and Jean. And once that reunion gets going, obviously Scott’s future time-traveling clone kind Cable has to come and Cable is hanging out with Hope who is apparently not Jean but might be the same age as her. And don’t forget Wanda Maximoff, who is finally back with the Avengers again and who was Jean’s BFF when they were teenagers and, I’m sorry, there will be no time for the X-Men to fight supervillains for the next 478 issues because all the redhead BFF’s will need to be having heart-warming adventures.

OK, that’s probably not what’s going to happen. But I’m going to enjoy it for now.

ALI
If that “XX” comic Marvel’s been teasing isn’t about what you just described I’m going to be seriously sad.


How about you guys? Do you have X-Men feels?

Whedonverse comics roundup: Buffy: Season 9

by Gabby

When we left Buffy at the end of season 8, she was returning to her roots, staking a lowly vampire in an alley.

Joss Whedon himself confirmed the feeling I had gotten while reading the last issue of the season, “Last Gleaming, Part Five”. He wrote, in his epilogue: “If you’ve read this issue, you’ve got a sense of where we’re heading for Season 9. Back, a bit, to the everyday trials that made Buffy more than a superhero. That made her us.” (the whole thing is really worth a read; you can do so here).

I have to be honest, I had no qualms with Buffy: season 8. Yes, it was kooky and crazy. Yes, Dawn became a giant, Buffy went to the future, the scooby gang travelled the world and Angel was the Big Bad (not to mention an… *ahem*, active partner in the insane invincible-sex). However, I personally jumped in to the comics right after I finished the series finale, “Chosen”. I was just happy that the universe I’d fallen in love with wasn’t obliterated. It lives on, albeit in comic form.

I must add, though, that I was elated that Mr. Whedon himself felt a return to Buffy’s human complexities was in order. So I am happy to say that season 9 for me has been a big hit (if only for the wonderful opening cover by Steve Morris which I find breathtaking).

cover of Buffy Season 9

I will review in broad strokes the arcs of season 9, and explore a little bit more one issue in particular. I will conclude with my hopes for the culmination of this season.

FREEFALL, parts 1 to 4

In the first arc, we get a glimpse of Buffy circa season 1; the fun loving young woman who just wants to be normal.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

I loved the opening party scene (which will be a factor in a significant plot twist later on) where we are privy to the camaraderie between the scoobies. Willow spends this arc warning Buffy that destroying the seed of wonder will have consequences (which is most evident in the form of Zompires – feral vampires sired after the obliteration of the seed). Xander and Dawn are trying desperately to live a normal life, and I appreciated the authenticity of their relationship (for instance, Xander having to sleep on the couch because he forgot Dawn’s birthday).

a panel from Buffy Season 9

Spike, in the meantime, is also warning Buffy; there are rumors that a Big Bad is after her. At first, it is implied that Eldre Koh, a demon who was wrongly imprisoned by magic, was after Buffy. It turns out that he just wanted to thank her, following his release after the destruction of the seed.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

The real threat to Buffy, however, is a siphon demon named Severin. I really enjoyed his backstory: how his girlfriend wanted to turn herself into a vampire and he agreed to follow suit. However, things backfired when she turned full-on zompire and tried to kill him. This unleashed his siphon abilities and he killed her, sapping the vampire energy out of her and into himself. He then goes on a rampage, killing vampires to exact revenge. This felt real, and heartbreaking, and is a great nod to the “vampire reality TV” phenomenon that Harmony unleashed last season. In the end, Severin is exposed as a pawn. Simone, a gun-loving power hungry ex-member of the Slayer Organization, hired him to kill Buffy. It is unclear at this time what her motives are, but since the current world order prefers vampires to slayers, it is easy to imagine that Simone isn’t liking that one bit. The arc ends with my favorite TV friendship ever, Willow and Buffy, sharing a great moment.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

SLAYER, INTERRUPTED

This issue, George Jeanty took a break from pencilling and Karl Moline replaced him. I love his style; slightly cartoonish, but really precise. Here, Buffy’s having weird “slayer” dreams and feeling sick. When I first read the issue, I loved it for the moments between Willow and Buffy. They have a sleepover so that Willow can monitor Buffy’s dreams. What the First Slayer is trying to tell Buffy is that she needs to undo what she did (destroy the seed), and the slayer scythe is a clue to the undoing. But the scythe isn’t for Buffy, it’s for Willow, and the latter enters Buffy’s dream to grab it and leave. When Buffy wakes up, Willow’s gone and has left a note.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

However, upon a re-read, I paid more attention to the fairy Buffy refers to as “Tink”. She keeps telling Buffy she “isn’t the slayer” and that she’s “not a girl anymore”. I guess I just glossed it over the first time, but these clues are very important for the coming arc.

Finally, there is also shock value in this issue: the last panel is a positive pregnancy test.

ON YOUR OWN, parts 1 and 2

This arc got a lot of ink in the news.

What’s so great about a return to Buffy’s roots is that we get to see human relationships in very real situations. Buffy believes she got pregnant when she blacked out from alcohol at her party (from “Freefall”, part 1). What does Buffy do when she finds out she’s pregnant? She weighs her options, as the situation warrants. She arranges a date with Robin, the son of a slayer, to see what he has to say about the whole thing, and he gives her a ringing endorsement for future mother of the year.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

But then she invites Spike over, and tells him she’s getting an abortion. The following dialogue is very poignant, so much so that I’m reproducing it here:

Buffy: I’m going to have an abortion.
Spike: You’re pregnant?
Buffy: Robin told me how Nikki tried to run away from slaying after he was born. And I thought I could do what she couldn’t. I thought I had everything that Nikki didn’t. Dawn, Xander, Willow… You… I was ready to ask you to run away with me. But then I realized… I’m barely able to hold onto a job. I live with roommates who are about to kick me out. And I can’t even hold my alcohol well enough to remember who got me pregnant. I can handle the slayer stuff. I can do what Nikki couldn’t. But everything else? I’m not ready. At least not now. It’s not the slaying. It’s me. Will you come with me when I do this?
Spike: Yeah.

We’ll come back to this.

In part 2, Buffy lets it slip that if she were to run away with the baby, she wouldn’t have brought Spike, because that would be the antithesis of having a “normal” life. This is the catalyst Spike needs to detach himself from Buffy. He’s still in love with her, and can’t “be the dark place [she] runs to when things aren’t working”. So after the whole ordeal is over, he’s leaving San Francisco (and starring in his own miniseries).

But THEN! A zompire rips out Buffy’s arm and we learn that she’s a robot (read: “not a girl anymore”).

a panel from Buffy Season 9

Ok. So I think this could make a lot of people angry. So far, the abortion story had been handled quite brilliantly. The circumstances surrounding the pregnancy were murky at best; Buffy was, for all she knew, raped that night (like the pin stuck on my lunch box says, “drunk means no”!). She weighed the pros and cons, and decided that she, as a person, was not ready to have a child, and took the decision to end the pregnancy. It could be qualified as a cop out to have her be a robot and bypass the troubles of going through the abortion. It could be a way to appease the pro-lifers. It could, but it’s not. I don’t want to tarnish this incredibly forward way of tackling social issues in comic book form. To pick up a comic and be confronted with the reality a significant amount of young women have to face every day? That’s incredible. I can understand the disappointment that we don’t get to see the process Buffy would have had to go through, but this is an action comic after all. The plot needs to move forward. And Buffy did make a choice. And I think that is the important thing to take away from this arc.

APART OF ME, part 1 to 3

This arc felt a little disjointed, and I had a hard time following most of it. What I did understand was that Andrew was the mastermind behind making Buffy a robot. He roofied her at the party and pulled a Dollhouse: he swapped her consciousness inside a robot and stuffed her real body with a yuppie persona living in suburbia.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

I felt like this was a really elaborate way of making Buffy come to terms with the whole “having a normal life” thing. She was envious of the yuppie Buffy, living a quaint life sipping Californian merlot. But after having a conversation with that version of herself, she realized she needs to earn this life. Andrew was just trying to fast track her there.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

It was the point of departure for Spike, who reaffirmed that he can’t be her puppy dog anymore. He will explore his new found independence in a 5 part miniseries, which I will review at a later date. Oh, and Simone had something to do with this arc, too: she kidnapped Yuppie-Buffy and tried to make her join her rebel-slayer side. Then she ran away when things got punchy? I don’t know what to make of that girl.

GUARDED, parts 1 to 3

This arc introduces Kennedy as the boss of Deepscan, an organization made of ex-slayers (who still have their power) who act as bodyguards for the rich and famous. Kennedy hires Buffy, and she accepts, willing to try something other than slaying for a change. She can’t shake who she is, though. While trying to protect a client, she attacks the bellhop demon instead of the maid, acting on her slayer instincts instead of Kennedy’s orders (in a bid that reminds me of [HUNGER GAMES SPOILER] Katniss’ military test in Mockingjay).

I loved how this arc seemed to take a page out of Angel’s book; not all demons are evil, and Buffy has to deal with Wolfram&Hart (the evil interdimensional law firm) and its senior partners. They are in a hell dimension and can contact all the realms with the help of Tincan, a social networking site. The only way to sever the connection is to destroy the servers, and Buffy has to talk Theo, the C.E.O., into destroying his life’s work. Through his ordeal, Buffy confronts the fact that she had to destroy the seed. She finally accepts that she had to do it, but she also learns a lesson along the way. She can’t forget to protect the little guy, as Kennedy so brutally reminds her (speaking about Giles being a casualty of the seed’s destruction). In the end, Kennedy offers her a very high paying job at Deepscan, something that would help Buffy achieve the normal life she’s been striving for. But she refuses:

Buffy: I can’t do it.
Kennedy: Is it because of what I said about Giles? ‘Cause I was out of line. You made a tough call, and we need someone who can make decisions like that.
Buffy: But you were right. I keep trying to save the world, when sometimes I should just save a single person. It was different when I was younger. Something changed. But I don’t think it’s a bad thing. And if I took this job, I’d be doing it for just one person: me.
Kennedy: After all you’ve been through, don’t you think you deserve that? To finally have the kind of life you want.
Buffy: Maybe. But that’s just not who I am. I’m the slayer.

As for the future of Buffy: Season 9, I’ve read the first part of “Billy the Vampire Slayer” and I’m very excited to see how the dynamic between a gay boy self-made slayer and Buffy will go down. I think it’s a very positive and empowering way to move forward, and will give Buffy the motivation she needs to keep on fighting the good fight. I’m also looking forward to the Willow miniseries, especially after having seen her in Angel&Faith (which I will also review at a later date). I love the wonderful moments we’ve gotten between the characters so far, and I’m hoping they will continue.

Here’s the thing I hope to (1) get more information about and (2) see resolved.

a panel from Buffy Season 9

Something’s up with Xander. There was a really great moment, in the “Apart of me” arc, between himself and detective Dowling. Xander reminisced about killing Jesse (“The Harvest”, season 1), and while on a zompire hunt, he felt the opposite of nostalgia, remembering the feeling of being frightened for your life. But the panel above is too violent to just be about bad memories. It happened after he asked Dawn to bring him his eyepatch and she took 5 seconds too long. I think there’s something more there, and I will keep my eye on him.

This brings us up to date! I would like to hear from you, now; how are you feeling about Buffy: Season 9? Did I miss anything? Any great Scoobies moment I should’ve mentioned?

GUEST POST: Rebecca Gadling, Michelle Rodriguez, and Why I’m Buying Fame & Misfortune, by Rachel Edidin

Hello from Fantastic Fangirls! We are pleased this week to bring to you a post from Friend of the Blog Rachel Edidin. Rachel would like a word in your ear about Strong Female Protagonists. Without further ado, Ms Edidin —

So. My friend Kel McDonald is currently running a kickstarter for a comic called Fame and Misfortune. You should, of course, go fund it, because it’s gonna be awesome*, but that’s not why I’m telling you about it.

What I want to talk about is the main character of Fame and Misfortune, Rebecca Gadling. See, Kel posted a preview of the first ten pages of F&M, and it got people talking. And an awful lot of them are saying things like this:

“…rebecca kinda looked like a man which made it realy confusing when they pronounced her name…”

“Really nice! I’m intrigued already and wanting to know what happens next and what all is going on… however I will say that it’d be nice if Rebecca looked a bit less like a man. It’d be less confusing”

“It does look promising and it’s nice to see the interaction between Rebecca and Connor, and witness Rebecca’s abilities. But I also agree that she looks like a man and that’s quite confusing.”

“Wow, the plot is good, and the art is interesting and attractive.. but Rebecca looks like a MAN. And it’s, well, really distracting. Really manly. So, were you going for the butch look?”

Here are a few more that didn’t make it past moderation:

“I’m sad that Rebecca looks like a man when she grows up.”

“why does that man have boobs? and why does he have Danny’s broken nose? wait a minute… why are they calling him Rebecca?”

“That, my friends IS a man. Rebecca deserves a redesign.”

And here’s the character they’re talking about:

Rebecca Gadling

Rebecca Gadling in action.

Rebecca’s design is my single favorite thing about Fame & Misfortune.

This is the kind of character I will buy a book for. Look at her: She’s tall, muscular, and generally physically imposing–and she knows it, and plays it up. I totally buy this woman as a bodyguard. She’s not afraid to take up space. She’s got practical, shortish hair that’s just shaggy enough to perpetually look in need of a trim. She dresses practically, almost androgynously–except, there’s that halter top, and the overshirt that’s clearly designed to accentuate both her breasts and her ripped-as-hell shoulders, which means that either she doesn’t give a fuck about cohesive gender presentation, or she’s playing it deliberately, and either way, I’m sold.

Here’s the clincher: She’s not pretty.

That Rebecca is big, and strong, and most of all that she’s not pretty says, clearly and loudly, that this isn’t a character whose purpose is to titillate or please the viewer. If I pick up this comic, I know Rebecca’s function in the story isn’t going to be limited to eye candy. She’s a Michelle Rodriguez⁺ in a world full of Summer Glaus.

(Of course, that carries its own cost. Ask Michelle Rodriguez: “Saying no to the girlfriend, saying no to the girl that gets captured, no to this, no to that. and eventually I just got left with the strong chick that’s always being killed and there’s nothing wrong with that.”)

It wouldn’t be a big deal if she were pretty, really. It’s comics–everyone is supposed to be pretty, right? Superhero books are full of Hollywood-style fake-ugly girls, models with the cursory coding of a pair of glasses or heavy bangs, bombshells but for the grace of plot demands. There are tropes built around this, and those tropes fly fast and fierce around action-hero ladies in particular: They can fight, but they have to do it while being waifish and nonthreatening and very very femme; and, above all, they have to be traditionally attractive. That an action lady can kick any given straight male fan’s ass six ways from Sunday just makes her a better status symbol in his wish-fulfillment fantasy. These are the River Tams, and the Natasha Romanovs, and the Alices, and the Buffys; and yes, they’re all strong and interesting and complex, but first and foremost, they are all pretty. That’s the price of a female action hero: our mainstream visual media flat-out doesn’t have a place for female protagonists who you can’t fantasize about taking home to make the football team jealous, so we get compromises, where the girl can be strong and fierce, but only as long as she’s also a perfect size two with long hair that falls just so. There are very occasional exceptions–Brienne of Tarth is a notable and recently visible one–but never protagonists, and more often than not, their formidability is played as freakishness, muffling the vulnerable waif within. There is no female analogue to Ron Perlman or Bruce Willis.

And that’s precisely what makes Rebecca so transgressive, and so very, very important. It’s not just that she gets to be big, and tough, and strong, and a little genderfucky, without being punished for it. It’s that she gets to be all those things, and she’s a protagonist. Rebecca’s the goddamn hero. Spoiler: She’s not going to die in act two. She’s not going to get the makeover that’s the only thing holding her back from running through a field laughing with newly shiny hair and a sundress and a boy large enough to make her look delicate. Rebecca doesn’t give a fuck about looking delicate. She speaks loudly and clearly to a different kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy–one I’m far hungrier for.

*It really is. I’ve seen the script. Plus, If it gets to $10k, there’s gonna be a limited-edition hardcover, and I really, really want one; and at just $5k, there’ll be a sketchbook with character design process stuff. And hell, all that aside, imagine how cool it would be to have a market where comics like this not only exist but are financially rewarding for their creators, and then go do your part to make that happen.

⁺Look, we all know Michelle Rodriguez is hot as all fuck. But actual hotness and Hollywood’s impossibly narrow window of acceptably homogenous hotness are two very different animals.

Fantastic Fangirls (Comic) Book Club: July Edition

As mentioned briefly before, we’re gearing up for the next installment of the Fantastic Fangirls (Comic) Book Club! For June, we’ve chosen the first trade paperback volume of J. Michael Straczynski’s run on Thor, collecting the first six issues. Here’s how Amazon describes it:

“Thor is back! And in a story only J. Michael Straczynski could tell! Returned to the pantheon of great Marvel heroes, the Asgardian God of Thunder is reunited with the mortal form of Dr. Don Blake. Together, they must reckon with the legacy of the mythic Norse kingdom and the awakening of its immortal heroes – but in a world that may not want them back!”

The book can be purchased here at Amazon, here at Barnes&Noble, here at Powell’s Books, or anywhere graphic novels are sold.

Thor Cover

We’ll be having our usual round-table discussion for the book on Wednesday, July 6th, a little over two weeks from today, and we hope you’ll play along in the comments!

Q&A #114: Who is your favorite father in comics?

In Q & A, a weekly feature of Fantastic Fangirls, we ask our staff to tackle a simple question — then open the floor to comments. In light of the upcoming Father’s Day holiday in the U.S., this week we ask:

Who is your favorite father in comics?



Anika

There’s a fairy tale where a king asks his three daughters to prove their love to him with gifts. The first two fawn all over him and give him treasures, but the youngest gives him only a small jar of salt. The king is incensed and throws her out of the castle. Alone and penniless, the princess is taken in by a cook and as time goes by she becomes the best chef in the land. She’s invited back into the castle by way of the kitchens and asked to cook a banquet for the king. She does so and it is perfect in every way — except for the king’s dishes she leaves out all salt. The king has a tantrum again and demands the cook brought before him for punishment. The girl meekly explains that she knew his majesty did not like salt and he suddenly realizes it is his lost daughter. He apologizes, they are reunited, and live happily ever after.

The real tragedy of House of M, which like the fairy tale above is a play on King Lear, is that Wanda is wrong. Magneto’s greatest wish is not that he rules over everything and everyone, nor that mutants are the honored, superior race. Magneto believes in and will fight for mutant supremacy, but not because he wishes to fashion himself a king. He wants the world to be better, to be safe, for his children. He wants the family that has been taken from him over and over. He wants his mother, his wife, his daughter, his little salt princess.

Magneto is the king. The selfish, angry, ruthless, demanding king with the reputation of a monster and the tragic story arc. But he’s also the sad, lonely, repentant father who wishes —



Caroline

Luke Cage!

Granted, there’s not a lot of competition among active, contemporary superheroes who also find time to be Dads. And there’s still plenty of time for his daughter, Danielle, to be kidnapped into the future or whisked into an alternate universe or whatever happens to the children of superheroes to keep them from ruining continuity by pointing out how much time has (or hasn’t) passed. But for now, I love seeing Luke and Jessica Jones as loving parents to Dani and I’m glad that they’ve been able to hold on to that piece of the universe.



Jennifer

Per Caroline’s recommendation, I recently read all of Fullmetal Alchemist, the first manga I’ve followed for more than one volume. I loved it a lot, and I found I loved one character in particular: Maes Hughes. He’s not a big flashy alchemist or action hero. He’s just a normal, good-hearted guy in a corrupt military, trying his best to make things right and support his friends even though he’d much prefer to be home with his wife and three-year-old daughter. He’s goofy and fun, and more than anything else, he LOVES his kid, to the point of calling his friends at work just to brag about her and whipping out pictures of her at the slightest provocation (or even without any provocation at all). Rarely is that level of fatherly love and devotion depicted in a comic, and it makes me smile every time I think about it.

Plus, I’m pretty sure Hughes is the kind of father my younger brother is going to grow up to be, and since my brother just cosplayed Hughes last weekend, it all feels very appropriate.



Sigrid

I’m not saying he’s a good father, but Colonel Kane from the Batwoman comics may be my current favorite.

Colonel Kane has found a way to work with his daughter, to participate in her need to serve. While his past deeds are murky, and it’s fairly clear he is not always truthful with Kate, that only serves to make him a more complex and interesting character to me. I look forward to seeing him in the forthcoming Batwoman comics, whenever it arrives.


So what about you? Who is your favorite father in comics?

Osborn

Last week Marvel released the five-issue limited series Osborn in trade paperback. This story, a meditation on the complexity of evil, is one of the most audacious, mature stories Marvel comics has produced in the past few years.

General spoilers for the plot of Osborn follow, without specifics.

“Mature” in the world of comics frequently means “depicts sexual acts,” or “has profanity not bleeped out.” Sometimes it means graphic violence or disturbing horror-esque images. More rarely I see mature used to indicate what I wish it more often meant — a story that deals in themes and images relevant to adults. This adult use of mature seems to be the comics niche that Kelly Sue DeConnick is carving out for herself.

We at Fantastic Fangirls really like DeConnick’s work. Her Sif one-shot was a fabulous, in-character look at how you reclaim your life after your body has been used as a toy by others. Rescue is a story of heroism and impostor syndrome, of refusing to let others define you. These stories, and her other works, are fast-paced action tales whose inner engines are human nature. They are mature, adult stories — less concerned with finding one’s place in the world for the first time and more concerned with how to live with yourself once you are there. The worst thing I have come up with to say about DeConnick’s work, so far, is that when she misses that mark she writes perfectly solid action stories. Osborn does not miss that mark.

The story of Osborn is a heist, with Norman Osborn as the object being stolen; a Maltese Falcon who can move itself. In brief, the Senate Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law is trying to decide what to do with Norman Osborn. They can’t bring him to trial, and they can’t hold him without charge. Meanwhile, reporter Norah Winters is trying to make amends for her failure to expose Osborn during his tenure as leader of H.A.M.M.E.R and the Avengers. When she receives a tip regarding his status and location, she follows the lead. Osborn, however, wants to stand trial, wants his day in court to share all the dirty secrets he holds. He wants to be a martyr in the public eye. What happens next moves very quickly, but is absolutely worth the reader’s time.

The plot of Osborn is ambitious. Every named character has motivations and an agenda. These agendas align with and counter each other over the course of the five issues, fluidly changing who is doing what to whom and why. Some alliances are made very explicit, others require a bit more work from the reader. Supervillain Carney Rives’s role in the story, for instance, and the implications of his “indenture,” went by me when I was reading the issues. After reading the trade I understand who he was working for. Most of the plot points, though, are perfectly comprehensible.

For all the tight plotting, however, the engine of the story isn’t the jailbreak. The engine of the story, the thing the story is about that is told through a heist/jailbreak, is how people respond to evil. In Norman Osborn’s oubliette we have five supervillains, a priest/cultist, and a jailer. Each one represents a different kind of evil. In Congress we have another sort of evil. The purest motivations I can find in the story are the self-interested, guilty impulses of Norah Winters — as a reporter, she truly believes that it is her responsibility to speak truth to power. Yet she’s not blind to how a fantastic story could make her career.

DeConnick’s Osborn is presented to the reader by a talented art team unafraid to take creative chances. First off, Clayton Cowles does a fantastic job on lettering. DeConnick’s dialog is complex, wordy, and overlapping, and Cowles never leaves the reader confused as to the correct word balloon order. I’d also like to mention that Jose Villarrubia does a fantastic job on the colors. They are dark and shaded without being muddy, there’s no profligate use of highlights to draw the eye to cheesecake, and the color-themes of each scene and character helped me keep track of the rapid changes in setting — especially during phone conversations between characters. None of that would matter, though, if Emma Rios and Becky Cloonan had not turned in fantastic art. Rios, and Cloonan in issue five, demonstrate a solid understanding of conventional comics layouts and panel progression. This is required, considering the dynamic changes in “camera angle,” point of view, and focus from panel to panel on each page. Yet it is in the atypical pages that we see Rios’ fearlessness. Pages without panel borders, fight scenes played out along diagonals, panels divided by sound effects, double-page spreads of simultaneous action over physical space rather than over time. This is audacious for Marvel comics. Audacious, welcome, and successful.

Osbron contains the realistic, mature storytelling I crave in my comics. Stories about consequences, about human frailty, about how, sometimes, we are not the heroes we really meant to be. Yet we go on. Sondra Muffoletto must now live with her compromise-stained soul, however good her intentions may have been. Norah Winters must live with her journalistic failures during Dark Reign, and her nagging sense that she has somehow failed again.

Yet Osborn is not without hope. It’s human-sized hope, not super-hero-sized, and that’s just fine with me. I cannot aspire to be Rescue, nor will I ever save the multiverse. I can, however, try to live according to Norah Winters’ closing creed. This is the advice she gives to Sarah, after all is said and done and the weight of failure hangs heavy in the air:

“Let’s see … what have we learned today? Turns out the world is full of bogeymen … liars and thieves. They all think they’re special, more deserving than the rest of us. And they’re doing their best to make a space for themselves inside your head. You can’t let that happen. You do that and before you know it, you start to become one of them. And that — along with the low pay and crappy hours – is what you get for doing this job, Sarah. Every day you get to shine a light onto something that wants to pull you into the dark.”

You don’t get thanked. You don’t get to be a hero. What you get is you continue plugging along, doing your best to hold the line against evil in all its forms and guises. This is mature comics. This is adult comics. This is Kelly Sue DeConnick and Emma Rios’s Osborn.

by Sigrid

Email: sigrid @ fantasticfangirls.org
Twitter: sigridellis

Marjorie M. Liu’s X-23

I will give you one spoiler, non-plot-related, for this week’s X-23 #8.

Laura Kinney likes spicy food.

That detail is at the heart of why I am loving Marjorie M. Liu’s X-23.

Laura Kinney, aka X-23, has a checkered past. The important parts are as follows: Laura was raised under conditions of hideous physical, mental, and emotional abuse. She was forced to commit murders as a child. After her escape she made a living as a specialized prostitute. She eventually found herself with the X-Men, where she was used as a weapon on a secret murder team. Laura has, with the start of this title, left the X-Men. She wants to spend some time without anyone telling her who she is, and what she should be.

The checkered past I refer to up above is not in reference to her origin story — which is only really marginally more confusing or dramatic than that of many characters — but to how her writers have handled these facts. She has been written as a nearly mute killing machine. She has been written as an awkward teenage girl with a crush. She has been written as nearly animalistic. She has been written as an irrecoverable victim. And she has been written as a young woman surviving, searching for her true self. It’s that last version I like. It’s what Liu delivers.

Dealing with an abusive backstory is a tricky thing. As a reader I object to a character being reduced to nothing more than the sum of their abuse. I also object to completely ignoring it. Both of those paths have been taken in the past. Liu gives us, instead, a young woman fully aware of her problems yet determined to find a way to make a life that works.

Liu’s Kinney is seeking self-knowledge. She wants to understand herself, all the parts of her. The space and peace for that self-knowledge have never been available to Laura before. She is tired of being the reflection of others’ expectations — tired of being a weapon, a child, a victim, a burden, a student, a time bomb. She knows she is all of those things, certainly, but knows that’s not the end. There is more to Laura Kinney than the sum of her damage.

I would be remiss if I didn’t mention Gambit at some point in this review. I’ve made my views on Gambit fairly clear in the past, so I’ll simply say —

– I kinda like the guy, here. It’s because he’s not being romantic. Remy, you may recall, made his first — highly effective — appearance as a sort of older brother to Storm. (Who had been turned into a child. If you don’t know how or why, don’t ask.) This was always a good role for Remy. His smarm is less evident when he’s not trying to get into someone’s pants. And he truly does understand, deeply, what it is to be used as a weapon. Gambit knows what it is to be conditioned and controlled and forced to kill. And both he and Laura prefer to solve their introspection issues through useful action instead of moping around. It’s a good fit.

In the first eight issues of X-23 we have seen pirates, shark-punching, Daken, Miss Sinister, Madripoor, and clones. Through all of this Laura is struggling to make decisions in an attempt to prove to herself that she can be good, be ethical, be a whole person who does good in the world, on her own. This is a highly compelling narrative. Laura is heroic not in spite of but because of her past.

Oh, so where does the spicy food come into it? I’ll let you read this week’s issue yourself. It’s the kind of character detail I love, integrating the past into the present and making both richer.

Thank you, Ms. Liu, for taking up Laura Kinney’s story. I appreciate it.

by Sigrid

Email: sigrid @ fantasticfangirls.org
Twitter: sigridellis

Kieron Gillen

by Sigrid

I liked Phonogram, by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie, quite a lot. But it was a Dazzler short story that made me sit up and really pay attention to Gillen’s writing. Here was a female character who is frequently the punchline of X-Men-related jokes, one who hasn’t been in the comics for quite some time. An afterthought to many X-Men fans. And Gillen wrote her in all her selfish, self-absorbed, insecure, uncertain glory. He wrote Ali Blair trying to decide the next step of her life. It was a great character moment for a minor character. That note, of finding the character moments that build characters, is the hallmark of Gillen’s work. He brings it to quiet stories, like “We Share Our Mother’s Health” in Phonogram: The Singles Club, and to action-packed adventure-fests like S.W.O.R.D..

Marvel announced recently that Gillen’s co-writing duties on Uncanny X-Men are going to rapidly transform into a solo gig for Gillen. In light of that and his ongoing X-Men title Generation Hope, we at Fantastic Fangirls took the opportunity to interview Kieron Gillen. Welcome, Kieron!

First, the X-Men questions –

How does co-writing with Fraction work? Who does what?

I do whatever Matt tells me, including collecting his laundry and parading around Portland in my skimpy White-Queen underwear with no pants whatsoever.

As far as I can tell, there’s no one way that co-writing works. The way we’ve made it do so is that Matt has basically done a lot of the high level stuff, and the actual execution has been mine. I mean, I joined Quarantine in issue 2, so there was a larger structure in place already when I turned up. However, it’s not quite as simple as a “Plot” and “Script” division. The higher level stuff warped from my influence, and after I’ve written a script, it bounced between Matt and me until we were both happy with it.

Luckily, it was really easy. Matt gave me a lot of space to actually express myself on the book, and Quarantine was already the sort of themes I liked to explore anyway. The practice we had when talking about the Five Lights also helped. It all worked well. At least, we’re still talking now, which is lucky because we’re having to bounce a lot of mails about FEAR ITSELF/JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY/THE MIGHTY THOR.

What research have you needed to do to take on writing the continuity-heavy X-Men?

Well, I read a lot.

That could be the short answer, but when you’re approaching a book that’s run for as long and been as complicated as the X-men, it’s important to understand what continuity really means. There’s the big question of what has happened ever – but what’s most crucially important is what’s happening *right now*. As in, where are the characters now? Why are they doing what they’re doing? What do they want? What do they fear? That’s the most vividly important stuff. When you have that under-control, you use it to dive back into the history at relevant, crucial points. Work out which parts of the past as relevant to the present, ideally so they can inform characters’ decisions without necessarily confusing newcomers. You want to use the continuity to create drama rather than create exposition.

A lot of the research is outside the X-books too. You read around the topic. I’ve been reading about new evolutionary theory. I’ve been reading about the social history of Nigeria. I’ve been reading about Freud’s analysis of “The Uncanny”. And then you think about how that applies to what’s happened before and what’s happening next. You have to bring more to the book than just an understanding of the back issues, otherwise it just ends up lifeless.

What are you going to do to increase the role of people of color, GLBTs, and other minorities in Uncanny X-Men?

Well, you won’t believe the Scott/Logan story I have planned.

I have to make a joke there, because it’s such an enormous question that it’s difficult to boil it down to an answer which fits in anything shorter than a looming monograph. It’s always on your mind, but tokenism is the death of characters. The problem being that the biases are so pronounced in society’s fiction as a whole, even very small gestures can come across as tokenistic to some – which is something you just have to roll with. To state the obvious, it was on
our minds most when introducing the Lights. We leaned towards areas where there were relatively few mutants from – and when they’re countries as prominent as Mexico (Gabriel) and the Ukraine (Teon), you realise how much there is to do to create a sense of the real scale of world culture.

There’s also the question of metaphor, which underlies so much of the X-men. That’s something that interests me hugely.

Are you going to have to come to the States more in the coming year, for conventions and the annual X-books secret meeting? Which conventions?

I’m not actually sure which cons I’m going to yet – I’m getting married in March, so that’s as far as my imagination reaches. I suspect I’ll end up doing SDCC, but I’m not entirely sure if I’ll have a table this time. And I’m “do”ing my first full Marvel retreat shortly, which I’m looking forward to. I’m a terrible sucker for New York.

What was the greatest moment of your comics fan experience?

Oh, man. Too many to mention. The most embarrassing one was when Jamie McKelvie and me first went to the Marvel offices, and discovered the awesome Venom soap dispensers in the toilet. We spent some time trying to work out how to take a camphone shot without anyone thinking we were total fanboys and/or perverts.

What does your love of gaming bring to your fiction writing?

I’ve been thinking about this for a while, as I’m not entirely sure it actually brings anything specific. They’re very different mediums. Like many, I can draw a better line between my experience of pen-and-paper games than anything I spent the last fifteen years writing about. There’s certain skills I cultivated as a games critic which directly apply – I’m highly analytical and tend to reduce characters to atomic components before doing anything with them – but that’s about the approach rather than the subject.

To get any more, I’ve got to get a little bit vague. Interest in multiple perspective narrative? Robust to the point of being mechanisable interest in world-building? Just a general cultural awareness of a form and what it means to people living in the 21st century? Something to do when I need a break from writing X-men script? All or none of the above? I dunno.

What are your writing ambitions, in and out of comics?

My aims are really general. I just want to have a sizeable body of work which I can be proud of. McKelvie and me used to say that we wanted to make art which inspires people as much as the art which inspired us did in its time. That’s about it. Oh – and I want to own the next decade of the medium. And I want statues. And a black obsidian pyramid, towering over the Midlands. And for someone to re-arrange the stars to spell my name.

That’s for the next ten years. I’ll work out what to do next when I hit 2020.

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Thanks again to Kieron Gillen for taking the time out of his busy decade-owning, pyramid-building, wedding-planning life to answer our questions. Congratulations, Kieron, on your professional successes and the wedding. We at Fantastic Fangirls wish you all the best.

Email: sigrid @ fantasticfangirls.org
Twitter: sigridellis